If it isn't important, then what number would you like to start at?

4 years?

8 years?

Mugabe killed his economy almost, literally, overnight.

We should have the best idea when his first Term is concluded

If EWC goes ahead and our economy tanks, then are we still going to say "No, but you see, we need to wait until his first term is up before we can make any conclusions."

Yeah! But US and Trump are smarter than that, I think it would take time to see the affects on US markets.

@Jerm fair enough. I will give you that. Although, I am not implying that Trump would do something as crazy as land grabs.... I do think he is capable of a state capture type project

He has already captured the state! He is president 😃

and when some of his supporters where "I would rather be Russian then Democrat" shirts, I am reminded of a lot of the ANC memebers outside court for zuma

wear not where

that would be a long term project - 6 years if that is his plan (and that is admittedly very speculative, but it is why trust is a big issue for me on leadership)

by that time it is too late, and we all suffer if that economy gets hollowed out

again... not suggesting he is doing it.... just saying that he is probably the most likely candidate the US has had for a long time

(although Cheney bush folk were cunning)

This would be so much easier if we could just take Trump out for a beer.... oh wait, he doesnt drink... a coffee then

NEVER trust a man who doesnt drink

fact

@Tom_Servo something we agree on

to drift once more... please indulge me

why do you think reps and dems end up landing in the same place on unrelated social issues?

ie... death penalty, abortion, guns, immigration, marijuana

surely some people who support immigration reform think there should be more gun control and legal marijuana

are we all so neatly configured to fit in these boxes - or are we just so easily taken in by properganda

propeganda

Because FREEDOM....

I said earlier that I dont fit in a box and I hate it when someone says I fall on a particular part of the political line.. I just want to be in my box, my own unique box, I dont care how many boxes surround me... and thats why ultimately, government in general is a bad thing, governments should be small and allow the private market to sort out social and economic issues....

While governments will survive if they dont effect change, private markets lively hood is affected if they dont take responsibility... the private market always has the bigger risk therefor ensuring the survival of it through innovation

My last comment for the day...

I am not an anti-trumper, I dont have this madness the media has about him.

But on balance, I dont personally think he is going to be good for the US. (I also dont think he is wrong about everything). Economy may do well for a bit, but ultimately the more isolationist they become the more they will struggle. And the social schism he is exploiting and widening, could result a real stuff up for them (they could end up like SA in the social cohesion stakes).

later folks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCmccvi3Ew8 Video from Styxhexenhammer666
On EWC

https://kemptonexpress.co.za/lnn/461290/west-rand-property-owner-to-be-directly-affected-by-land-expropriation-speaks-out#.W3GqqTaZi5E.twitter

No Farmer is going to willingly give their land away, they will destroy their properties before handing it over

Some speculation that it's not about the land but about what might be underneath

I saw that as well, there as always a deeper agenda

Forgot who tweeted, they implied it might benefit cyril's brother on law

Regardless, it is going to benefit people other than the farmers... and then these thieves get it for free

Yes exactly

@Tom_Servo My apologies for my aggressive tone today.

Clowns can not be aggressive.

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