Why should someone collective own something if it wasn't their company to begin with, if they didn't build it up from nothing?

because there are things where competition is impossible

would you please be more specific @Shattered

How does that affect competition?

If a group of people own something rather then a single person.

@The Librarian railway system

There will always be people at the top, no matter what the form of government is.

that's not a natural system

There will always be multi-million dollar companies that have a monopoly on things.

Collective Ownership could only work in that case, and not on a personal level.

The only public railway system on a national level is the Amtrak program.

gov ownership, not collective

nationalized

Thats even fucking worse.

Freight distribution is own by public companies

collective is impossible

Thats democratic socalism right there.

IMPOSSIBLE.

It doesnt work.

*sigh*

americans

look at europe, in austria the rails are owned by the gov

in germany its private

in germany its expensive as hell because they can raise costs, theres no competition on THEIR rails

only Amtrak is operated by the goverment

Its not the governments place to own shit.

Goverment owned schools are shit.

you cannot just build more rails

next to the others

thats bullshit

actually you can with government permission

I would recommend you review how our railroads work

they don't work the same way as other countries

they are similar, but not the same

I dont know why people think Americans don't understand what Democratic Socialism is, like we are dumb or something. It was invented BY Socialists, because they rejected Marxism and Leninism both.

dont understand that at all.

incapable of understanding the difference between socdem and demsoc

*sigh*

look, in germany theres different leftie parties

There is barely a difference.

Socdem = a socialist system of government achieved by democratic means.