iceland, norway, finland, denmark

they are relatively nationalistic

they have a free-market system with heavy social programs

not entirely free

almost no country has a completely free market

Any form of socialism is a cancer that needs to be dragged through the mud, only difference between Democratic Socialists and Socialists is the smiple fact that they reject the Stalinist Political System and Soviet Economic State that was present during WWII.

@Shattered if you are referring to a global scale then you are correct, but at a local scale, those countries do conduct in a free-market system

Nobody is going to "Collectively Own" Anything that I own.

Yeah Capitalism has its flaws, but replacing private ownership with a collective ownership is retarded and would never work.

People like Bernie Sanders need to get their head out of their asses, we will NEVER go to a collective ownership system with Democratic Socialism.

are you capable of understanding the difference between socialism and social democracy?

Yes.

I understand what they are perfectly.

some public ownership makes sense

For what?

natural monopolies

Why should someone collective own something if it wasn't their company to begin with, if they didn't build it up from nothing?

because there are things where competition is impossible

would you please be more specific @Shattered

How does that affect competition?

If a group of people own something rather then a single person.

@The Librarian railway system

There will always be people at the top, no matter what the form of government is.

that's not a natural system

There will always be multi-million dollar companies that have a monopoly on things.

Collective Ownership could only work in that case, and not on a personal level.

The only public railway system on a national level is the Amtrak program.

gov ownership, not collective

nationalized

Thats even fucking worse.

Freight distribution is own by public companies

collective is impossible

Thats democratic socalism right there.

IMPOSSIBLE.

It doesnt work.

*sigh*

americans

look at europe, in austria the rails are owned by the gov

in germany its private

in germany its expensive as hell because they can raise costs, theres no competition on THEIR rails

only Amtrak is operated by the goverment