Message from @asparkofpyrokravte

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2018-12-10 06:49:50 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte I don't think pence rule applies here. I am in a pretty bad situation where I have no friends here and I am trying to have a conversation with my spouse when she comes back from overseas that I want to separate.

2018-12-10 06:50:17 UTC  

I don't want any accusations of DV if she does that.

2018-12-10 06:50:50 UTC  

If you are initiating divorce you are in a pretty unique situation. A voice recorder is a good idea, but ideally you'd have the conversation somewhere that isn't completely private.

2018-12-10 06:51:04 UTC  

Also check on the recording laws of your country, and make sure the thing works

2018-12-10 06:51:21 UTC  

initating separation

2018-12-10 06:51:27 UTC  

Ah, right

2018-12-10 06:51:31 UTC  

It isn't divorce yet

2018-12-10 06:51:46 UTC  

Im from SC so the grounds that I only have is 1 year separation

2018-12-10 06:52:02 UTC  

^ though even if it's illegal to record, chances are no one will know unless you have to use the recording, and its worth it to record it because you'll get a lot less trouble with that than a DV charge

2018-12-10 06:52:33 UTC  

my situation is kind of unique, fucked myself signing the affadvit of support.

2018-12-10 06:52:38 UTC  

That is a good point, but if that is the case and you have time to prepare you'd just have a witness instead and skip the illegal step

2018-12-10 06:53:30 UTC  

The voice recorder is if you have to do day-to-day stuff in the house when you can't get a witness

2018-12-10 06:53:35 UTC  

It's worth mentioning that having someone there at the time OR recording aren't going to stop past accusations of DV

2018-12-10 06:53:57 UTC  

that is very worth mentioning, yes.

2018-12-10 06:54:26 UTC  

jesus, I am out of it.

2018-12-10 06:54:40 UTC  

This situation is over my head

2018-12-10 06:55:09 UTC  

I'm sorry mate. Life's a bitch and then you die. But make the most of it for yourself ok

2018-12-10 06:55:25 UTC  

It isn't quite as bad as it seems

2018-12-10 06:55:40 UTC  

You probably do want to consult a lawyer before she knows you are going to separate

2018-12-10 06:55:59 UTC  

If your lawyer tells you to screw her over don't listen (though tbh, you should have pretty little opportunity for that)

2018-12-10 06:56:14 UTC  

Audio recording is indeed a great step

2018-12-10 06:56:25 UTC  

im speaking to one

2018-12-10 06:56:33 UTC  

If she doesn't know, most of the false accusations would probably be pretty easy to disprove

2018-12-10 06:56:51 UTC  

South Carolina is a one-party consent state, so you're good on that front

2018-12-10 06:57:13 UTC  

yeah, I don't need to let her know when I record.

2018-12-10 06:57:44 UTC  

for some reason, I feel like voice is weak source of evidence

2018-12-10 06:57:56 UTC  

Eh, it isn't going to catch some things

2018-12-10 06:57:57 UTC  

but

2018-12-10 06:58:06 UTC  

It will catch almost all relevant things

2018-12-10 06:58:15 UTC  

So long as you've got a mic that picks up lots of stuff

2018-12-10 06:58:29 UTC  

Any sound of someone hitting another will be caught

2018-12-10 06:58:38 UTC  

If you're speaking calmly the whole time

2018-12-10 06:58:40 UTC  

that'll be caught

2018-12-10 06:58:52 UTC  

if you're trying to diffuse that will be caught

2018-12-10 06:59:11 UTC  

if you object to her hitting you, it is going to be hella hard for her to claim that you were the one who actually hit her

2018-12-10 07:00:00 UTC  

Yeah, I am worried about when I leave the apt to get out of the situation, then she assaults herself then points the finger.

2018-12-10 07:00:11 UTC  

She still has to give a day and time

2018-12-10 07:00:27 UTC  

if your mic catches the sound of your car door closing

2018-12-10 07:00:34 UTC  

well, you weren't in the house

2018-12-10 07:01:06 UTC  

if she claims it happened in the morning, your mic should lend credibillity to your claim that nothing serious happened at that time

2018-12-10 07:01:39 UTC  

Let's be real mate, although false accusations do happen, you don't know your partner is gonna be the one to make them. Take the precautions you can absolutely, but dont stress too much about something that will probably never happen