Message from @Indigo
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@Indigo @InsaneCaterpilla, and anyone else interested, how's this for an introduction? I'm still not entirely happy with it, but the immediate issues with the previous incarnations should be dealt with.
"Do boys lag behind girls in academic achievement? Yes, boys get lower grades in school almost universally. There are several ways in which boys have particular issues with regard to schooling as compared to girls. What can be done about those issues? Well, it's complicated. There are some things that appear to be solvable or at least mitigated by school system, but some of the differences seem intractable, and everything is mired in politics. What follows is a summary of boy's issues with schooling, how those are being addressed, and hopefully a little of why those issues should be important to you."
Mate I've gone like, way overboard on criticism, I really dont wanna do anymore but oof ^^; it feels wrong for the first sentence to be a question with a yes/no answer unless it's the title, because it seems to have no flow, but that could just be me. That's all I'll say, besides it does definitely seem to have improved :3
Hrm, yep, I did notice that. Grrr. I like having the two questions, but I still need to change things around a bit.
@asparkofpyrokravte we need to come up with a good title first
Right, you were talking about that a bit
What would you suggest more than "An Issue of Education"?
I think I interrupted you last time you were talking about that.
That would be too vague for a title even though it is on a men's rights site
Atleast we need people to know what it is just from the title and to click on it.
Title strategy should be like this:
Make it vague only it if the vagueness increases the chances of a click.
Otherwise be on point
So then how does one be more on point for such a broad topic without going full acedemic into "A Summary of Boys' Issues in Education"? I'm really completely a loss here. I feel the present suggested title is a relatively serviceable balance given its scope.
Is the gender disadvantage in education, similar to that of in race(white v black)?
Not quite, but that is relatively irrelevant
That's gonna change the scope of the topic to have to include studies on race in education as well
exactly
Yeah, that is
But it's a feminist criticism which can arise
The gender disadvantage in terms of absolute outcome really is just one paragraph in this article anyways, even though it is referenced therafter. And isn't US-centric (for reasons that become relatively important in the middle of the article).
And since because of the racial disadvantage, we are doing much to decrease the gap like scholarships, programmes, quota etc.
But we are doing jackshit about the gender gap
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I mean tell something like that
The US is sure, but this really isn't US-centric in nature
and even then mostly for university admissions
Okay
I didn't even quite stick to the anglosphere
It's a worldwide thing
Even in the third world, this is starting to be the case
And the quotas mostly already apply to boys IIRC, except in those nations which decided to get rid of the that when they found that it no longer fit the intersectional stack
@Indigo I'm not sure mate how feminism can use the racial gap as a critique against an article about the gender gap in education
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding?
That's how they work
I've heard, feminist critiques about the gender sentence gap
Saying that black men get harsher sentences for the same crime.
It's true, we need to acknowledge that.
The thing is, that sentencing gap objection doesn't apply to the UK, for instance. It is a US-centric objection only. Similarly, the counter to the objection would also be US centric, since the racial gap is going to be lesser in some other countries. Besides that, it isn't a valid critique, and most of the people reading the article, even if they thought race was a bigger issue, wouldn't object to eventually getting around to boys issues.
It is something that I think would be better served as a reply to a comment
rather than something in the article proper