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Gn mate

Rest well

@asparkofpyrokravte are you Asian?

No...why?

nvm, it's just now night in the east.

Haven't checked the new version yet, how is it coming along in your opinion?

I'm planning to sit down with it tonight or tomorrow morning, once I've gone through my own article on suicide and maybe launched part two of the sexism. At schools one.

Speaking of which.

Just added a note in <#512584678314606613>. If anyone has any more stories about their time at school let me know.

Changes from the old version are so far are *relatively* small since the first word doc I posted except for the beginning and end, but there are small changes to most paragraphs. The beginning I need to rewrite again, probably will do that tonight.

Aside from the beginning and the section where I mention US policy, I'm close to being happy with it (but would also be happy to get an objection from someone to something from the body of the work too).

Eh, I eventually decided to remove that bit about US policy. Demonstrating the difference between the attention given to girls vs boys education in the US is a bit difficult to do from solid ground. Sure the DoE mentions girls in its quick facts about STEM, and doesn't mention gender in its quick facts about reading (even though it does mention race, which has a similar magnitude of effect), it also doesn't mention gender in its quick facts specifically about math.

Additionally, although a really poor statement was chucked into the creation of the white house council on women and girls...it is really hard to say how much effect that had on overall policy

So while one can say that girls issues on education seem to get addressed to the exclusion of boys in the US, it not something blatantly obvious

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@Indigo @InsaneCaterpilla, and anyone else interested, how's this for an introduction? I'm still not entirely happy with it, but the immediate issues with the previous incarnations should be dealt with.

"Do boys lag behind girls in academic achievement? Yes, boys get lower grades in school almost universally. There are several ways in which boys have particular issues with regard to schooling as compared to girls. What can be done about those issues? Well, it's complicated. There are some things that appear to be solvable or at least mitigated by school system, but some of the differences seem intractable, and everything is mired in politics. What follows is a summary of boy's issues with schooling, how those are being addressed, and hopefully a little of why those issues should be important to you."

Mate I've gone like, way overboard on criticism, I really dont wanna do anymore but oof ^^; it feels wrong for the first sentence to be a question with a yes/no answer unless it's the title, because it seems to have no flow, but that could just be me. That's all I'll say, besides it does definitely seem to have improved :3

Hrm, yep, I did notice that. Grrr. I like having the two questions, but I still need to change things around a bit.

@asparkofpyrokravte we need to come up with a good title first

Right, you were talking about that a bit

What would you suggest more than "An Issue of Education"?

I think I interrupted you last time you were talking about that.

That would be too vague for a title even though it is on a men's rights site

Atleast we need people to know what it is just from the title and to click on it.

Title strategy should be like this:

Make it vague only it if the vagueness increases the chances of a click.

Otherwise be on point

So then how does one be more on point for such a broad topic without going full acedemic into "A Summary of Boys' Issues in Education"? I'm really completely a loss here. I feel the present suggested title is a relatively serviceable balance given its scope.

Is the gender disadvantage in education, similar to that of in race(white v black)?

Not quite, but that is relatively irrelevant

That's gonna change the scope of the topic to have to include studies on race in education as well

exactly

Yeah, that is

But it's a feminist criticism which can arise

The gender disadvantage in terms of absolute outcome really is just one paragraph in this article anyways, even though it is referenced therafter. And isn't US-centric (for reasons that become relatively important in the middle of the article).

We need to atleast mention it in a sentence to as to deflect criticism

And since because of the racial disadvantage, we are doing much to decrease the gap like scholarships, programmes, quota etc.

But we are doing jackshit about the gender gap

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I mean tell something like that