Message from @asparkofpyrokravte

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2018-12-12 06:09:20 UTC  

Or is there some bit that ought to be improved still?

2018-12-12 06:15:43 UTC  

Minor nitpicks... Because Americans *do* tend to think about the US as the extent of the universe, I would put 'Throughout the world this is found to be the case' rather than universally true.

'By **the** school system'

Personally I think any of the titles work. But it does matter that it seems right to you specifically

2018-12-12 06:21:38 UTC  

Title atm: "Our Boys' Schooling Issues"

"Boys on average get lower grades in school compared to girls. This is true worldwide. There are several ways in which boys have particular issues with regard to schooling as compared to girls that cause this gap. What can be done about those issues? Well, it's complicated. There are some things that appear to be solvable or at least mitigated by the school system, but some of the differences seem intractable, and everything is mired in politics. What follows is a summary of boys' issues with schooling, how those are being addressed, and hopefully a little of why those issues should be important to you."

2018-12-12 06:22:22 UTC  

There are parallels between the title and the final sentence of the introduction. I am content-ish

2018-12-12 06:23:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512584940874104833/522297433259114500/Boys_Education3.doc

2018-12-12 06:23:58 UTC  

And I'm also not opposed to doing more revisions

2018-12-12 06:33:05 UTC  

I think you've done a lot of hard work on it all mate and it shows :3

2018-12-12 07:08:20 UTC  

@Men Are Human Use revision 3 just above when you read tomorrow/today.

2018-12-12 09:01:09 UTC  
2018-12-13 17:07:59 UTC  

Just started reading. I'll highlight any bits I edit.

2018-12-14 09:03:40 UTC  

@Men Are Human Thoughts so far?

2018-12-14 09:06:37 UTC  

I kinda liked the intro to version 2 actually.

2018-12-14 09:06:52 UTC  

We could well merge it a bit

2018-12-14 09:07:02 UTC  

Not much, but a little.

2018-12-14 09:08:50 UTC  

sure

2018-12-14 09:09:17 UTC  

I'll have to see about it later, I've been kinda screwed over for writing this week. Had the landlord in ripping the house apart with masive wall-coring drill. It's like being stuck in a dentist. Lol

2018-12-14 09:10:22 UTC  

It's all done now, so I should be back on the horse today or tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to reading this properly

2018-12-15 13:15:26 UTC  

Just launched a new article on Men Are Human @everyone !

2018-12-15 13:35:30 UTC  

That has one significant omission unless a previous article has discussed it

2018-12-15 13:37:49 UTC  

Give that a read. While the wikipedia page specifically calls out affirmative action, any "ameliorative" reason can be given for a discriminatory law

2018-12-15 13:42:25 UTC  

basically this has its roots in the charter of rights in 1982, though specific wording saying that discriminating against men is ok might have been from the Employment Equity Act that is mentioned (1995/1986)

2018-12-15 15:15:15 UTC  

Thanks a lot. Do you want to write up a patch for the article? Or maybe a follow up

2018-12-15 15:27:48 UTC  

Hrm...I'm not sure. That's something I'd more discuss with BlueOrange22. The article stands on its own quite well, despite what I said. It would be possible to mention this at the bottom of "how this happened", referencing how the law doens't violate the charter despite the charter guaranteeing sexual equality under the law on account of the broad exception of section 15.2. Or one could make a paragraph towards the bottom of "It Gets Worse", noting that this is part of a long Canadian trend of creating trapdoors to avoid gender equality.

2018-12-15 15:28:16 UTC  

BlueOrange22 isn't here under that name though

2018-12-15 15:28:56 UTC  

Come to think of it, if he's Canadian, he may have omitted it on purpose to focus on the Employment Equity Act since it happened only a few years after the Charter.

2018-12-15 15:31:08 UTC  

Basically "it's all fun and games until someone gets equality" (loved that article) is a Canadian thing too, only in the case of Employment Equity feminists have been more careful about avoiding it so that someone like the NCFM can't fix things through litigation. (link: https://menarehuman.com/all-fun-and-games/)

2018-12-15 15:34:26 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte Thanks, I'm glad to hear you liked it. :) Maybe this should be a separate article. Basically a 'how the hell did this happen?'

2018-12-15 15:35:30 UTC  

Honestly, there isn't much more to discuss in a separate article though

2018-12-15 15:36:07 UTC  

You might be right, though I was thinking it could cover other times they have done this

2018-12-15 15:36:52 UTC  

That's the only other fact, so one'd just be drawing a narrative of how gender equality activists have been careful about avoiding mandating equality for *everyone*

2018-12-15 15:37:08 UTC  

Hmmm

2018-12-15 15:37:33 UTC  

I think you could build that case, though I will add the note when I get home

2018-12-15 15:37:48 UTC  

This being unlike similar countries of course. I'd hate writing an article with so few concrete things though.

2018-12-15 15:38:30 UTC  

That's a point. They've been pretty smart about misusing their own laws

2018-12-15 15:39:14 UTC  

In the states they really were actually serious about equality though, and in a national amendment no less

2018-12-15 15:39:33 UTC  

And some states (California) even more so

2018-12-15 15:47:56 UTC  

Hey @Men Are Human , you said this article: https://menarehuman.com/sexism-vs-boys-part-1/ got a great response in you reddit post. Where was that response?

2018-12-15 15:48:23 UTC  

Was it elsewhere on reddit?

2018-12-15 16:22:25 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte it was mainly via email - and people saying it was a good article on gab, and so on. It wasn't a big response, but it was a really good one. I got two or three new stories from it and a bunch of positive remarks.