Message from @blueorange22

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2018-12-15 15:36:07 UTC  

You might be right, though I was thinking it could cover other times they have done this

2018-12-15 15:36:52 UTC  

That's the only other fact, so one'd just be drawing a narrative of how gender equality activists have been careful about avoiding mandating equality for *everyone*

2018-12-15 15:37:08 UTC  

Hmmm

2018-12-15 15:37:33 UTC  

I think you could build that case, though I will add the note when I get home

2018-12-15 15:37:48 UTC  

This being unlike similar countries of course. I'd hate writing an article with so few concrete things though.

2018-12-15 15:38:30 UTC  

That's a point. They've been pretty smart about misusing their own laws

2018-12-15 15:39:14 UTC  

In the states they really were actually serious about equality though, and in a national amendment no less

2018-12-15 15:39:33 UTC  

And some states (California) even more so

2018-12-15 15:47:56 UTC  

Hey @Men Are Human , you said this article: https://menarehuman.com/sexism-vs-boys-part-1/ got a great response in you reddit post. Where was that response?

2018-12-15 15:48:23 UTC  

Was it elsewhere on reddit?

2018-12-15 16:22:25 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte it was mainly via email - and people saying it was a good article on gab, and so on. It wasn't a big response, but it was a really good one. I got two or three new stories from it and a bunch of positive remarks.

2018-12-15 16:22:34 UTC  

Nice

2018-12-15 16:23:24 UTC  

There was this especially good one on gab that I liked. I wanted to use it into the next article, but I haven't heard back yet

2018-12-16 10:26:50 UTC  

Okay, could anyone who knows Canadian law give me a quick synopsis of the law they set up beforehand to make it harder for us?

2018-12-16 12:00:14 UTC  

Oh, can anyone confirm we need to alter the location to be specific to Ontario for that same article?

2018-12-16 12:35:12 UTC  

Cucknadian law is stupid

2018-12-16 12:35:29 UTC  

They are a true shining example of gynocentrism

2018-12-16 12:35:49 UTC  

oh, it gets worse

2018-12-16 12:35:54 UTC  

ive been meaning to do another post

2018-12-16 12:36:21 UTC  

All the funds for the girrlss and none for the booiis

2018-12-16 12:36:27 UTC  

but basically, they have one for "disaster preparedness" to and it boils down to men being exlcuding from resources and rescue efforts

2018-12-16 12:36:55 UTC  

That... Isn't fucking ethical

2018-12-16 12:37:42 UTC  

oh, its a real hoot

2018-12-16 12:38:04 UTC  

America should just Anex Canada

2018-12-16 12:38:10 UTC  

Like in the fallout series

2018-12-16 13:45:14 UTC  

@blueorange22 Those assholes...

2018-12-16 13:46:32 UTC  

Blue, would you do a full article on it for us rather than a one-shot post? I think you should consider an author name and basically send me everything.

2018-12-16 13:57:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512584940874104833/523861269825191945/Boys_Education_4.doc

2018-12-16 13:58:29 UTC  

Okay. I've written an entirely new intro, and I want to add your article on to it. Basically I want to make the style a little less academic and more angry/acsessable

2018-12-16 13:58:52 UTC  

I admit, angry is pretty much my style choice, but I think it's engaging.

2018-12-16 13:59:31 UTC  

I really hope that I'm not overstepping with my editing here. There are a few points that probably need fixing, and some duplications.

2018-12-16 14:06:37 UTC  

@Men Are Human just posted the reddit post. but yes, an article is a good idea. I sort of did an article format

2018-12-16 14:34:30 UTC  

@blueorange22 it can well be reposted on the site, but I find brand new content gets the strongest reaction. The ideal length is about that of 'One girl is worth a hundred boys'

2018-12-16 14:35:40 UTC  

Don't worry either way. Maybe compile a few you have together and I'll edit & launch them as you go.

2018-12-18 01:24:31 UTC  

@Men Are Human Yikes. Okay then. I think atm the biggest problem with the rewrite is "Feminists especially are keen to see girls not only succeed, but utterly dominate. It is not enough to beat boys fairly -they must be crushed, by any means necessary." And as far as the education system goes, I haven't seen any evidence of that. Actually, some of the opposite, see the Israel study. Similarly, OECD the UK seem feminist to me, but even the UK didn't completely ignore boys' literacy needs, much less actively stymie them. Don't get me wrong, the UK is rather unfair towards boys, but more in a media-reacts-to-Boko-Haram sort of way, not a Valerie Solanas kind of way.

2018-12-18 01:24:56 UTC  

There also really isn't anything I could find on the Men Are Human site that takes a truly aggressive stance towards feminism, so this would be a rather strange first even if the UK did seem to be deliberately trying to increase the education gender gap by sabotaging boys. For instance, it should really come up in the rather clear family-law setting, or something else involving specifically the NOW before the murky education setting

2018-12-18 01:27:53 UTC  

Don't get me wrong, I'm more anti-feminist than mens-rights oriented myself, I just kinda thought the purpose of the site was kinda not to lean in that direction.

2018-12-18 01:28:35 UTC  

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2018-12-18 01:34:19 UTC  

Secondly, you should really skim through the CCL paper for some context about all the goings on (or for that matter carefully re-read draft 3). This is not primarily a discrimination issue outside the anonymized-grades thing (and even then, unchecked bias rather than deliberate is hardly ruled out as an explanatory factor for much of it, and subconcious bias is at least a significant part of the issue, as the Israel paper and some others note that teachers tend to be harsher on same-gender). There is the usual callousness towards male needs, sure, but even when Australia made some crazy-big strides towards reducing the gap in how the genders are treated, the OECD results didn't show that having a measurable effect. That means this teaching boys is a legitimately hard thing and not one with lots of easy improvement.

2018-12-18 01:35:02 UTC  

Very different from family court.

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2018-12-18 01:35:25 UTC  

I'll have a more detailed look at things tomorrow