Message from @InsaneCaterpilla

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2018-12-18 18:03:58 UTC  

Okay, So A-level is college-track high school, and GSCE is college...quasigraduation?

2018-12-18 18:07:07 UTC  

Kids do multiple exams- sats are mostly meaningless but change expectations of those around the kids (age 7, 10, age 13 approx).. then gcses at age 16.. they allow you to go to 'college' to do A levels till age 18/19 then uni for 3 years if wished etc

2018-12-18 18:07:10 UTC  

At age 16 the students typically take exams for the General Certificate of Secondary Education (GCSE) or other Level 1/2qualifications. While education is compulsory until 18, schooling is compulsory to 16, thus post-16 education can take a number of forms, and may be academic or vocational. This can involve continued schooling, known as "sixth form" or "college", leading (typically after two years of further study) to A-levelqualifications (similar to a high school diploma in some other countries), or a number of alternative Level 3 qualifications such asBusiness and Technology Education Council(BTEC), the International Baccalaureate (IB),Cambridge Pre-U, WJEC or Eduqas. It can also include work-based apprenticeships or traineeships, or volunteering.[12][13]

2018-12-18 18:08:06 UTC  

Okay, so GCSEs are the exam more representative of elementary school results

2018-12-18 18:08:20 UTC  

Ummm, no

2018-12-18 18:08:25 UTC  

Aaah haha

2018-12-18 18:08:33 UTC  

Unless you finish elementary school at 16

2018-12-18 18:08:35 UTC  

Then yes

2018-12-18 18:08:39 UTC  

lol

2018-12-18 18:09:41 UTC  

Education is compulsary in some form till 18 now i was led to believe- hence why young people are doing more apprenicships

2018-12-18 18:09:42 UTC  

Well, I mean, 16 would be the end of junior high or first year of high school, so it isn't super far off

2018-12-18 18:10:12 UTC  

But then I'm thinking elementary as being kindergarten through until high school

2018-12-18 18:10:18 UTC  

which might not be accurate

2018-12-18 18:10:26 UTC  

..

2018-12-18 18:10:45 UTC  

The main thing is that GCSEs are something every kid takes, but not every kid takes A-Level, and GSCEs are prior to completion of high school

2018-12-18 18:10:50 UTC  

Is that correct at least?

2018-12-18 18:12:11 UTC  

@Men Are Human I'm certainly willing to budge on accusing feminists of being female supremacist with respect to schooling. That indeed *seems* to be the case. However, this isn't BadgerFeed, I presume this is the sort of thing nonMRM folks are going to be directed to, so if that point is going to be made, I think the point should have a robust argument for it

2018-12-18 18:12:23 UTC  

No, GCSE's are at the end of high school

2018-12-18 18:12:35 UTC  

Some kids arent able to take gcses because it would bring the schools score down so they are put in for other stuff but most are expected to (bet the rate of males v females being expelled from academies is 'interesting' too)

2018-12-18 18:12:39 UTC  

After high school you have sixth form or college

2018-12-18 18:12:45 UTC  

Then university

2018-12-18 18:12:57 UTC  

Oh, okay, but every kid that complete's high school takes GCSEs

2018-12-18 18:13:06 UTC  

whereas many high schoolers won't go on to sixth form

2018-12-18 18:13:18 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-18 18:13:23 UTC  

Yay, I get something right!

2018-12-18 18:14:11 UTC  

That there is a good source for that then

2018-12-18 18:14:20 UTC  

Sixth form / college is optional, high school is not (very simply put)

2018-12-18 18:14:40 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte I absolutely agree, everything has to be as robust as possible.

2018-12-18 18:15:19 UTC  

Only a sith deals in absolutism

2018-12-18 18:15:51 UTC  

Then I object to that on the grounds that it is very, very hard if not impossible to make that a robust point and the closest the article ought to get to that is quoting that UCAS chief person

2018-12-18 18:16:06 UTC  

who is conveniently pretty explicit herself

2018-12-18 18:17:55 UTC  

Yup.

2018-12-18 18:18:17 UTC  

In fact, that quote would make this article a lot stronger.

2018-12-18 18:18:20 UTC  

and yeah, @Tomas males vs females expelled from academies is interesting. The problem is that boys legitmately are more likely to have good reason to be expelled

2018-12-18 18:18:30 UTC  

@Men Are Human The quote is already in there

2018-12-18 18:18:48 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte Sorry. I'm very tired, lol

2018-12-18 18:18:53 UTC  

The paragraph "Unfortunately that does not seem to be the case in the UK." is basically devoted to that quote

2018-12-18 18:19:37 UTC  

@Men Are Human We can continue this tomorrow if you wish

2018-12-18 18:20:12 UTC  

We could have a longish chat about schools not letting boys run around enough