You banned him from *this* channel for that?

And just because he was saying something unreasonable?

yes, because the last time I didn’t ban him, he doxxed and ruined the entire group

...

Why wait for the inevitable?

You’re falling right into it

No, I'm just more used to free speech zones.

I've been arguing back and forth with SPECS (that's what I shorten his name to) for months and months

slowly

When it interests me

See, that’s what he does, makes you waste time with circular convos that go no-where, and then turn people against each other which is happening now

No more

Nah

he doesn't really turn people against each other

Look at our discussion now

Our discussion now has nothing to do with what he was saying

It’s a “debate” that is happening because of him. He knows I’m suspicious and started responding to my comments with little passive aggressive disagreements, just to start it. This all happened before- if it was the first time I was seeing it, ok. But it’s not.

He disagrees with the prevailing views in this discord and on the subreddit, we know this

Even persistent passive aggressive disagreement isn't beyond the pale outside of the support channels, and certainly not when he deliberately takes you to the debate channel

Well, not you

I should rephrase "takes the discussion to"

and he left it to that other guy to initiate in this channel too

I see what you mean, and it’s 100% true in a vacuum. It’s the past behavior and pattern

And that'd be a fair argument, except that doing that in the middle of a debate in the debate channel is a weird time to do that.

And purging comments...he was the 2nd or 3rd user in the discord

And it isn't like Hadashi wasn't aware of that kerfuffle you mentioned from the very beginning

And he can bring him back. But he’s toxic and bad for the group

Alright, I guess that's the reason. And in hindsight, sorry for making objections to moderation in the debate channel, this really isn't the place for that

I was just rather shocked

I understand, it’s the history. I got harassed for weeks after getting doxxed. I just know that he would hurt the group

@asparkofpyrokravte normally I wouldn't agree with that ban. But idk what happened before.

But we must be more diligent before banning a person.

@King Bean Try /R/Ask men

<@&516181909554987038> We are going to have to have a talk here. By deleting all his messages without archiving them, there is no way for me to see the truth of this matter and so I cannot ban PM. If any of you saved what he wrote, I will review it. If not, it's looking like I will have to unban him.

I will be laying down some ground rules for mods very soon

We cannot have this 'everything vanishes' approach. This was meant to be a relatively free-speech server.

The only rules were against hate and illegal content.

Now it seems like bans are being handed out behind my back, and I am not pleased.

We are not going to turn into feminism. Our weapons are logic, and facts.

@blueorange22 I would like to make a full apology about the incident relating to MRACentral and the @centralMRA twitter account earlier this year. I have regretted that incident since it first happened, and it is the reason that I avoid twitter in general now. I know that my apology can never make up for the lasting impact my actions had on you, @turbulance4, and @James.

I respect your decision to ban me from the MRACentral discord and change the passwords on the various accounts, however I ask that you do not let past events affect our relationship today in this community.

@Men Are Human agreed. i acted too hastily