Message from @InsaneCaterpilla
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thing is i never even had a word in it since it was just "traditional" to have a circumsicion and people would literally ask if you were circumsiced yet
That's our point of contension, we don't mind if an adult chooses to have it done for whatever reason. But a child has no choice
why is this kind of activisim not in any countries where this is mandatory
Mmm... Well idk of any where circumcision are mandatory of the top of my head, but a lot do have a very strong cultural/social/religious pressure to have it performed
well the country i was born/circumsisced in was turkey and i know for sure in most of these muslim countries its "traditional"
There's always ostracism when you speak out against such things, which is why in those societies very few will do so
It would be said that you weren't a true muslim and such
like that dr on twitter calling it "fragile male ego" and "mansplaining"
Yeah, that fraud of a medical “professional.”
i wonder if its delusion or willful disinformation
Cleanliness is the reason for the practice in Islam. It stems from a misunderstanding of 'benefits' of the practice, which don't really exist, especially before puberty, as the prepuce is not supposed to be seperated from the glans till then. Another given reason is to be similar to the last prophet who is supposed to have been born without one. However neither of these things actually preclude the practice being performed as an adult. There's no reason to have it be performed on infants besides societal pressure and social norms.
@Gok how do you feel about it?
honestly its so normal here i really dont feel anything on it
i havent felt "plesure" with a intact foreskin so i wouldnt know the differences
I would never encourage you to feel shame for your body or disdain for your relatives for giving into your cultural norms, but it's good to question the practice of routinely cutting little boys for the future of such cultures. If it is harmful, as I and others contend, then it doesn't set a good precedent for the worthiness of that, or any, culture
One thing I always come back to thinking on, is if you want to make a commitment to Allah/God, your society, or anything, what better way than to do it when you are capable of making a fully conscious choice of that? A child can hardly understand the significance of such a thing
And it's worth noting that the Qur'an does not command it done, it's only mentioned in the Sunnah
@Gok You should imagine doing that same thing you discribe to a baby
BTW would you let me add your description to www.menarehuman.com as a part of a circumcision article?
@InsaneCaterpilla Your comments would be a very good thing to add to the article on circumcision in the part about religious practices as it is very reasonable.
Thanks!
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She sounds like a great person.
So uh
I have to admit
Despite listening to HBR and Hannah Wallen in particular for a while, I've never actually read up on the 7 years in hell case
...until now
If you ever need an increase in blood temperature, give that a read. I can't believe I'm only halfway through.
It is a criminal case related to a divorce that is far, far worse than anything I've ever read about happening in family court.
@asparkofpyrokravte you should crosspost it to <#520987662572584961> mate
I'll have a read when I finish some stuffs ^^;
Divorce is a support channel
this doesn't belong there
It is, I just thought that it could be used to showcase how bad things can be and people would empathise with it.
Either way, its up to you.
There has to be so many examples of male victims. I see it in public; people HAVE to be waking up to it and noticing that something is wrong