Message from @asparkofpyrokravte

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2019-01-16 16:03:56 UTC  

No.

2019-01-16 16:04:07 UTC  

I can send a letter to the MP

2019-01-16 16:04:16 UTC  

"Member Of Parliament"

2019-01-16 16:04:26 UTC  

Or your equivalent to congress

2019-01-16 16:04:55 UTC  

Yeah get in touch with ur MP, what constituency are u

2019-01-16 16:06:39 UTC  

Constituency

2019-01-16 16:07:17 UTC  

?

2019-01-16 16:09:07 UTC  

What's a constituency

2019-01-16 16:09:24 UTC  

Like your borough or your state?

2019-01-16 16:09:41 UTC  

The place the MPS represent just Google your postcode and say constituency in it and it should tell u that and ur mp

2019-01-16 16:14:40 UTC  

And you can go to the press.

2019-01-16 16:15:15 UTC  

How much would they care tho, a lot of news over here is quite safe in what it says

2019-01-16 16:15:52 UTC  

Well maybe an alternative source can report on it.

2019-01-16 16:18:29 UTC  

Yh

2019-01-16 18:27:06 UTC  

@Deleted User If you want what you say added to our website as an open letter, please do let us have a copy.

2019-01-16 18:29:05 UTC  

That'd be an interesting read and one that would help people learn about the movement

2019-01-17 07:09:03 UTC  

I think it really would be.

2019-01-18 05:04:02 UTC  

@Men Are Human So divorce court discrimination isn't straightforward. The MensLib stat is that of those men who contest *to the very end*, 50% win child custody. Of course, what they don't say is that women win more than that.

2019-01-18 05:05:42 UTC  

It is generally easier to prove discrimination with child custody than it is with divorce asset separation

2019-01-18 05:05:44 UTC  

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2019-01-18 05:06:33 UTC  

Discrimination with respect to asset discrimination is still there. I think the easiest way to colloquially demonstrate that is to say that if you go asking for a divorce as a woman you'll get completely different advice than you'll get as a man

2019-01-18 05:11:44 UTC  

Basically sometimes a man is downright lucky if he gets 80-20 in a divorce due to alimony and rules concerning the marital home

2019-01-18 05:11:47 UTC  

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2019-01-18 05:12:03 UTC  

HOWEVER, family court is a complete cesspit

2019-01-18 05:12:24 UTC  

While you hear plenty of stories of men getting insane splits like 80-20 and ending up lucky

2019-01-18 05:12:33 UTC  

You also hear stories of wives who get completely and utterly screwed

2019-01-18 05:14:27 UTC  

If you watch Divorce Corp, I think you can get a pretty good feel that family court can be a maze of incestuous relationships between lawyers and judges, so sometimes husbands who pick the right unscrupulous lawyer can more or less clean out their wives

2019-01-18 05:14:35 UTC  

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2019-01-18 05:14:57 UTC  

As I was saying child custody is a lot easier to demonstrate

2019-01-18 05:17:22 UTC  

You can see that in Canada contested orders go 60% mother, though the uncontested cases are less bad than the US

2019-01-18 05:17:58 UTC  

For the US stat, well, make some estimates based on Fig 1.

2019-01-18 05:18:09 UTC  

Uncontested cases go very poorly for fathers, and contested cases don't go as well for fathers as they do for mothers.

2019-01-18 05:21:51 UTC  

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2019-01-18 05:22:03 UTC  

Finally, the RBOMI article on divorce is really, really good: https://www.reddit.com/r/rbomi/wiki/main#wiki_3._discrimination_in_divorce.2Ffamily_courts

2019-01-18 08:02:36 UTC  

So it turns out that after remembering a bit of research I did, the study that men get custody 50% of the time in court cases was a woozle

2019-01-18 08:03:18 UTC  

Basically everything tends to refer back to the "Gender Bias Study of the Court System in Massachusetts"

2019-01-18 08:04:57 UTC  

Basically when feminists cite works that cite it they say that when men contest they get 50%, but neglect to mention women are more successful