Message from @Abbysol

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2018-12-05 03:39:27 UTC  

And the other says

2018-12-05 03:39:34 UTC  

Just pay them less

2018-12-05 03:39:38 UTC  

And pay women more

2018-12-05 03:55:20 UTC  

Can you link the article mate?

2018-12-05 03:56:57 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-05 03:59:14 UTC  

So they deleted the article

2018-12-05 03:59:21 UTC  

But there’s was in a quote on it

2018-12-05 03:59:32 UTC  

“Why not just pay women more, and men less?”

2018-12-05 04:05:02 UTC  

I had it when I was making a photoshop for misandry done by feminists

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512584678314606613/519725861646368792/image0.png

2018-12-05 04:39:18 UTC  

Valenti is some sort of self-parody

2018-12-05 04:59:15 UTC  

Things that seem patently ridiculous to implement, such as the Duluth model, actually do end up getting put through though... It's sad the state the world is.

2018-12-05 05:00:28 UTC  

Messing with businesses, such as paying women more for the same job, probably would meet a lot of blowback from those businesses, and certain powerful rich people. So honestly, I hope they do it just for the reaction from them.

2018-12-05 05:02:48 UTC  

Would give the MRM and anti-feminist movements a hell of a popularity boost

2018-12-05 05:05:04 UTC  

Also since if business where forced to pay women more there would be a lot of women who would end up out of work

2018-12-05 05:05:57 UTC  

Some yes, but due to equality laws they can't not hire them based on their gender either

2018-12-05 05:07:13 UTC  

It’s not rejecting them because they are women tho, is rejecting them so they can save money

2018-12-05 05:07:17 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-05 05:08:13 UTC  

When cutting costs the women would go first because men are just cheaper

2018-12-05 05:08:44 UTC  

That's not an acceptable argument for women who work on construction sites and can't lift as much, so I dint think they'd allow it for that, as not hiring the women and hiring men instead would save money

2018-12-05 05:10:23 UTC  

Well I used to do very labor heavy jobs, not construction, grounds keeping, so I did a lot of tree removals and things, so I don’t think that is an issue since there was one guy who was even smaller then me

2018-12-05 05:11:49 UTC  

It’s less strength and more endurance, so women can do it, they just don’t want too most the time

2018-12-05 05:13:44 UTC  

Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying women *can't* be capable of doing such things, only that a lot aren't (men too, only they aren't forced to hire them with quotas). If a woman with the right qualifications (safety I assume, bricklaying etc) comes along, wants it but clearly can only do half of what the men cause she has no muscle mass, are they allowed to refuse her for that or could she claim sex discrimination? perhaps I'm wrong but I was under the impression she could sue them.

2018-12-05 05:13:57 UTC  

I know it can come across that way but I have seen women go ask for help from the boys and I’ve kind of just looked at them like “you fucking serious, it’s not that big and only needs to go across the room”

2018-12-05 05:14:39 UTC  

As a women doesn’t want to build the strength to do the job she shouldn’t do the job

2018-12-05 05:15:21 UTC  

If she is fired for not doing the job then she has nothing to complain about

2018-12-05 05:16:08 UTC  

What if she claims that women aren't as physically strong as men therefore it is sex discrimination?

2018-12-05 05:16:56 UTC  

Then she is wrong, she should be able to lift a certain weight, then by law is something is too heavy you need tools on site to aid with lifting

2018-12-05 05:17:35 UTC  

I'll have to do a bit of research tbh, I'm thinking I can find a case or two where such a thing has happened, but what the ruling is I am not sure.

I agree that she's wrong but what courts decide in an issue like that is another matter

2018-12-05 05:17:40 UTC  

This is why there is no excuse for women not being in lower paid labour jobs like garbage collection, it’s hard work but anyone can do it if they put in the effort

2018-12-05 05:19:40 UTC  

Hardest day of work I ever did was spending 8 hours removing duck weed from a pond with a pitchfork, everyone came into work the next day completely fucked in the back xD

2018-12-05 05:20:39 UTC  

If a woman can’t do the job, she gets fired, and if she can’t do the job then why not? If her coworkers can do it fine

2018-12-05 05:22:22 UTC  

Also bricklaying is the fucking worst, I don’t care what gender you are, it just sucks

2018-12-05 05:22:33 UTC  

That's the thing though, generally people accept that the sexes are *generally* different, with exceptions. So if traits of one sex such as not being able to do as much or as well as the opposite sex, then holding that against someone could possibly be construed as sex discrimination

2018-12-05 05:23:29 UTC  

I think is just another Feminist paradox “women are just as good as men” okay then go lay bricks “I need help”

2018-12-05 05:24:39 UTC  

You don’t learn until you actually start doing, and I think men are brought up to think it’s not okay to ask for help, that it is seen as weak, where women are brought up to always ask for help when you can, I think it is less a physical thing and more a mental thing

2018-12-05 05:25:15 UTC  

Because again, I could do the work, and I’ve seen smaller men able to do the work, so I don’t think it could be anything else

2018-12-05 05:26:14 UTC  

Throw more women into garbage trucks, they can do it! I believe! xD

2018-12-05 05:29:04 UTC  

There is a healthy amount of man up and a healthy amount of showing emotion, I think to be a functioning human you need to work out the balance between the two.

2018-12-05 05:29:24 UTC  

Too far either way is going to hurt you one way or another.

2018-12-05 05:37:14 UTC  

Women who get fired shouldn’t blame it on their gender, they should blame it on the fact that they couldn’t do the job, and you think a judge would be based enough to know the difference between a lazy bitch who doesn’t want to break a nail and an actual case of gender discrimination.

2018-12-05 05:41:37 UTC  

Perhaps you're right in that women can be fired for not being able to keep up, as I'm not getting any results of women who claimed they were fired for their gender in that context. I'm surprised tbh as I thought feminists meddling in businesses was already that pervasive.

But I still guess that's a separate reason to being fired, being less capable, than that they cost more on an hourly basis is, even if they end up with the same result of a person who loses the company money over a different employee.