Pregnancy has health conditions that come with it, and you should not force anyone to go through with it

of course, only when there is no medical threat to the mother

but there are millions of abortions which have no medical threats to the mother at all

those are personal choices

THOSE choices, a father should have a say in

the mother should be made to have the child and give it to people who will love it unlike her

because his child is being stolen from him

And men deal with the psychological effects as well.

@Maxthx pregnancy has health issues that come with it as normal such as hormone changes, so it always impacts her

im so happy im prolife rather than prodeath

I do not feel like that is enough of a reason to deny a father the right to have his child

I do admit to bias on this subject, because my father literally saved my life from my Aunt

if my Father had no intervened, I would have been aborted

@Maxthx boys will be boys eh

my Mother has two sisters and a brother, Four siblings total

A man has no right to have a child. Neither does a woman for that matter.

I am the ONLY child from their entire generation

because my Father saved me

@InsaneCaterpilla i feel like you aren't understanding this man

I assure you I understand it perfectly.

we just disagree, its fine

its a prickly issue

I just wanted to make sure I said my side

human life is too precious to just throw away and chalk up to a cluster of unfeeling cells

Scientifically, that's what they are

one of them could be the future savior of the entire species

I'm not against this convo, but I think if we continue this we gotta move it into <#515246258571575297>

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I find it hard to relate to the gender issues happening in India

Same here I’m afraid.

its a very different culture and I don't think the issues happening there are equatable to issues happening elsewhere

No, there are definitely cultural upheavals going on

but I dont' think the women's movement is totally bonkers yet

The same thing is going on where women are being given rights, but men are still legally obligated with certain responsibilities

But it's unique to india

well I think what's good in india is the mens movement is growing in tandem with it's womens movement, will be interesting to see what the outcome of that is like.

Yeah

India is maybe the most sexist country for men in the planet. It's a weird confluence of traditional gynocentrism, political whiteknightism and feminism

yet it has some of the most brutal and publicly acceptable incidents of rape in the world

Life in most parts of India is hard, both for men and women. As is with everywhere else in the third world