oh its worse than that, she tried to convince my Mom to abort me

fuck that cunt

Just to be clear, outlawing abortion is not an MRM view and this is not the place to express such sentiments

I was commenting on the idea that women rely on abortion for birth control

it should be a last resort option

and since abortion is a decision that is removed from Men entirely, I consider it a Men's Rights issue

I want to be able to abort my payments

We’re not discussing outlawing it per se, we’re discussing proposed legislation (that will have an effect on the men involved in such relationships).

Abortion should never be a man's choice

if i dont want to be a father that should be my choice

Financial abortion is a seperate option/issue

the mum has the option to not be mother

I think a Father should have a say in abortion

why shouldnt the father have the same option

The father certainly had a role in creating the fetus.

a father shouldn't be able to force an abortion, but he should absolutely be able to prevent one

Pregnancy has health conditions that come with it, and you should not force anyone to go through with it

of course, only when there is no medical threat to the mother

but there are millions of abortions which have no medical threats to the mother at all

those are personal choices

THOSE choices, a father should have a say in

the mother should be made to have the child and give it to people who will love it unlike her

because his child is being stolen from him

And men deal with the psychological effects as well.

@Maxthx pregnancy has health issues that come with it as normal such as hormone changes, so it always impacts her

im so happy im prolife rather than prodeath

I do not feel like that is enough of a reason to deny a father the right to have his child

I do admit to bias on this subject, because my father literally saved my life from my Aunt

if my Father had no intervened, I would have been aborted

@Maxthx boys will be boys eh

my Mother has two sisters and a brother, Four siblings total

A man has no right to have a child. Neither does a woman for that matter.

I am the ONLY child from their entire generation

because my Father saved me

@InsaneCaterpilla i feel like you aren't understanding this man

I assure you I understand it perfectly.

we just disagree, its fine

its a prickly issue

I just wanted to make sure I said my side

human life is too precious to just throw away and chalk up to a cluster of unfeeling cells

Scientifically, that's what they are