Message from @S8N
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[it's like the original but using kazoos and recorders
Lol.
@blueorange22 an MRM club wouldn't really start off and would probably get a lot of hate as it is
my approach to teaching people about these issues is discussing them separately and getting people to separately agree with what i'm saying. then, after they're familiar with the topic, get them familiarised with the MRM itself.
Some friends are receptive with this, but it's nevertheless hard to get the common idea of "women are oppressed by society" out of their heads
i have a friend who i could probably introduce to this movement though. anti-feminist in general
every small step is progress
a useful approach is just to joke about feminism, then delve in how they're wrong and how men actually have problems, and then go on from there
a gentle approach
and keep in mind that some things will seem outrageous to people who aren't familiar with the topic itself. start gradually, introducing easily provable facts and statistics and then delving deeper into other concepts later. Starting with topics that go against your average social values will make you look like a conspiracy theorist and will put them off
exactly
and be careful when showing statistics like these. feminists will absolutely change the subject to men being more violent than women, and then present it as proof for "toxic masculinity"
@Men Are Human what exactly would you write about?
@S8N oh, I wanted to make an article that's just quotes from people in education who have been forced to listen to crappy Feminist rhetoric in the classroom. Might be a sequel to the Schools article. I'd not be commenting, except at the beginning.
i can give my own opinion on the topic, though as explained above, I haven't introduced any of them to the MRM, only gradually introduced them to certain issues that men face. asking them to give quotes for an article they don't know much about might be off-putting to them.
Oh, no, I just meant I wanted to hear about it from you in your own words. If you could just expand a little on what you already wrote, say how often it happens, maybe a few more examples, and that would be fine.
To summarize, my english teacher is a lesbian feminist who's very engaged in both the LGBT community and the feminist community. While I have absolutely no problem with the first, the latter can get on some nerves as she definetly pressures it.
We were in English class (not an english speaking country, supposed to be language learning), before starting, she specifically said that she will try to keep this away from politics to the best of her ability. We had the new topic of "human rights". We were given sheets of paper of different human rights articles, and we had to read them, so on. Later, she turns on the projector and a few images are on screen. The largest sized one was a (fairly recent) picture of feminists marching in the streets
The second most prominent one was a Black Lives Matter protest. (very political, no need to say)
Also very largely sized, was a picture of the feminist logo (♀️ with a = in the middle)
Me and a friend of mine complained about how she was promoting feminism. He went on a very short discussion which ended up to the pay gap. The teacher said that she can discuss that later, when she can show some statistics. She then proceeded with the class as normal. The discussion itself never continued during or after the lesson.
An unrelated but interesting thing I found is that our English books used terms like "white male" a few times.
in negative ways, of course
if you are not in an english speaking country, why are you learning about American activism?
Black Lives Matter is quite distinctly American
I'm willing to bet the Feminist footage was from US marches as well
An excercise on our book I also find particularily interesting.
[7] How to: Show everyday courage and support
a) What could you say in the following situations?
Look at the phrases on the right for ideas.
In an expensive shop: You have just been treated very well by a shop assistant. She then turns to a poor-looking **girl** your age and tells her that maybe she should try one of the cheaper shops down the street. **You think it's awful**.
It was from US marches indeed
do you mind if I ask which country this is?
Germany
thats extremely confusing
Thanks @S8N, if you have more let me know. Your English is very good by the way. :) I never realized you're German.
heh, I'm actually Romanian. Moved to Germany with my parents because of job opportunities
how you like Germany?
It's a great country with great people
I had no idea that Germany has gender quality issues, I thought they were one of the more gender equal countries in the world
and, I just noticed
My book
straight at the Unit start
"Are there enough women in positions of power?"
"White males still dominate business in North America and Europe. For how much longer?"
This is what our **English language learning class** teaches us
i'll try to send some pictures if i can