bonobos are capitalist as they trade a service for various things

the service happens to be sex

Hah what a sperg

I just googled the definion of capitalism for the first time and it fits my explanation

although now the left side shows it as a "political ideology" and somehow marx invented it

but moving on even the middle east is capitalist I still dont get why they hate us so much.

Marx coined the term

Honestly what marxists call Capitalism I just see as Liberalism insofar as it extends to economic life

And Liberalism I believe would not be able to survive outside mass industrialization

The way I see it we have two theoretical models that do not exist in practice. What we have in practice are markets with varying levels of regulation.

Modern capitalism really is mostly liberalism

Which is the issue

When you try to follow the non-regulations to the letter you arrive at liberalism, but if you decide not to follow it to the letter you might get a system that is still economically attractive without (or at least a very limited amount of) degenerate behaviour.

Take liberal politics out of economics

Companies like Disney, Google, Amazon, etc need to be smacked

Hard

Agreed.

The latter would always eventually evolve into the former

There's no point to try taking politics out of corporations, it's impossible nowadays

I mean both are basically entertwined, and have been for a few good decades at least.

I just want the (((Banks))) to fail

Put the pressure on the boards of the companies

See I actually think in modern day, the companies are scarier than the banks

But of course the banks were "too big" to fail

they're on the same team

True

I think there needs to be a point where we say “we’re tired of getting our political views from companies”

You want to start a revolution or change the world? its pretty easy you just have to get enough people together and convince them they are under attack by some kind of foe. That's essentially how every significant movement in history has come to pass for better or worse.

The left is great at it

"Hey you non white people, you're being oppressed by whites! Remember slavery!?"

etc etc

Money, media, and education are the three corner stones or power, aside from raw force, who in their right mind would think it's a good idea to give it away to foreign powers?

Banks should never be private imo

You want a revolution? You need to loosen the grip media has on people.

yeah

That’s the absolute first thing.

And thankfully in the US people are still armed

The task is getting them to use said arms to good use

Maybe it would be good to elliminate big corpo from the market and replace it with a mixture of private business owners and maybe worker communes (hate the name). Such structures could be more socially responsible then what we have now.

@Aki you said "The way I see it we have two theoretical models that do not exist in practice. What we have in practice are markets with varying levels of regulation." this would be a conflation of capitalism with a laissez faire economy, capitalism in no way discusses regulation its the idea of having capital.

I'd agree that laissez faire is not reasonably possible