Message from @ImATomato

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2018-12-20 19:49:43 UTC  

I agree that Feudalism and Fascism are economically capitalist

2018-12-20 19:51:04 UTC  

@ImATomato I'm not a commie though just a humble CS major that had to take 4 semesters of accounting.

2018-12-20 19:51:30 UTC  

CompSci?

2018-12-20 19:51:33 UTC  

yes

2018-12-20 19:51:34 UTC  

Fair enough

2018-12-20 19:52:09 UTC  

Taking a degree in CS myslef

2018-12-20 19:52:27 UTC  

most people look at capitalism as a political system I look at it as strictly economic

2018-12-20 19:53:02 UTC  

Honestly idk if capitalism really exists because nobody seems to have a consistent definition of it and it doesn't seem to be a singular thing

2018-12-20 19:53:35 UTC  

an unrelated example of how I view things I pissed a nat soc off because he asked for a nat soc role in one server I co-own I gave him "Marxist"

2018-12-20 19:53:52 UTC  

and Nationalist

2018-12-20 19:53:58 UTC  

but still he freaked

2018-12-20 19:54:00 UTC  

In a sense monkeys can become capitalist the moment you give them tokens and they use it to exchange for food or groomings

2018-12-20 19:54:06 UTC  

yes

2018-12-20 19:54:25 UTC  

bonobos are capitalist as they trade a service for various things

2018-12-20 19:54:33 UTC  

the service happens to be sex

2018-12-20 19:54:37 UTC  

Hah what a sperg

2018-12-20 19:55:44 UTC  

I just googled the definion of capitalism for the first time and it fits my explanation

2018-12-20 19:57:44 UTC  

although now the left side shows it as a "political ideology" and somehow marx invented it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/508381442942959616/525401438738972673/unknown.png

2018-12-20 19:59:00 UTC  

but moving on even the middle east is capitalist I still dont get why they hate us so much.

2018-12-20 19:59:43 UTC  

Marx coined the term

2018-12-20 20:06:13 UTC  

Honestly what marxists call Capitalism I just see as Liberalism insofar as it extends to economic life

2018-12-20 20:06:32 UTC  

And Liberalism I believe would not be able to survive outside mass industrialization

2018-12-20 20:08:15 UTC  

The way I see it we have two theoretical models that do not exist in practice. What we have in practice are markets with varying levels of regulation.

2018-12-20 20:09:32 UTC  

Modern capitalism really is mostly liberalism

2018-12-20 20:09:45 UTC  

Which is the issue

2018-12-20 20:16:25 UTC  

When you try to follow the non-regulations to the letter you arrive at liberalism, but if you decide not to follow it to the letter you might get a system that is still economically attractive without (or at least a very limited amount of) degenerate behaviour.

2018-12-20 20:16:32 UTC  

Take liberal politics out of economics

2018-12-20 20:17:01 UTC  

Companies like Disney, Google, Amazon, etc need to be smacked

2018-12-20 20:17:02 UTC  

Hard

2018-12-20 20:17:09 UTC  

Agreed.

2018-12-20 20:17:35 UTC  

The latter would always eventually evolve into the former

2018-12-20 20:18:10 UTC  

There's no point to try taking politics out of corporations, it's impossible nowadays

2018-12-20 20:18:37 UTC  

I mean both are basically entertwined, and have been for a few good decades at least.

2018-12-20 20:18:55 UTC  

I just want the (((Banks))) to fail

2018-12-20 20:19:00 UTC  

Put the pressure on the boards of the companies

2018-12-20 20:19:14 UTC  

See I actually think in modern day, the companies are scarier than the banks

2018-12-20 20:19:14 UTC  

But of course the banks were "too big" to fail

2018-12-20 20:19:24 UTC  

they're on the same team

2018-12-20 20:19:28 UTC  

True

2018-12-20 20:20:11 UTC  

I think there needs to be a point where we say “we’re tired of getting our political views from companies”

2018-12-20 20:21:44 UTC  

You want to start a revolution or change the world? its pretty easy you just have to get enough people together and convince them they are under attack by some kind of foe. That's essentially how every significant movement in history has come to pass for better or worse.