Message from @ImATomato
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Most alternatives to capitalism still incorporate elements of it, would you agree? @Josh42A
Like wage labor and/or private property
any system with a monetary unit is capitalism
I would disagree
communism is the one alternitive because they replace money
@The Big Oof do you understand from a financial perspective what capital is?
Explain your position on this.
You may have a better understanding than I do, we'll see
In accounting capital is any form of asset that has a monetary value assigned to it
Yep
any society with capital is capitalist in my opinion
true marxist communism would be the only outlier
Alright, I see your position now. It's more of a strict one, but still correct depending on how one looks at it
spain republic had no capital but they soon introduced coupons
What most people call capitalism could be called labeled "liberalism" if this definition is to be followed
*any system with a monetary unit is capitalism*
By that logic Feudalism and Fascism are capitalist.
Idk how many commies would agree with you calling Feudalism capitalist
I agree that Feudalism and Fascism are economically capitalist
@ImATomato I'm not a commie though just a humble CS major that had to take 4 semesters of accounting.
yes
Fair enough
Taking a degree in CS myslef
most people look at capitalism as a political system I look at it as strictly economic
Honestly idk if capitalism really exists because nobody seems to have a consistent definition of it and it doesn't seem to be a singular thing
an unrelated example of how I view things I pissed a nat soc off because he asked for a nat soc role in one server I co-own I gave him "Marxist"
and Nationalist
but still he freaked
In a sense monkeys can become capitalist the moment you give them tokens and they use it to exchange for food or groomings
yes
bonobos are capitalist as they trade a service for various things
the service happens to be sex
Hah what a sperg
I just googled the definion of capitalism for the first time and it fits my explanation
although now the left side shows it as a "political ideology" and somehow marx invented it

but moving on even the middle east is capitalist I still dont get why they hate us so much.
Marx coined the term
Honestly what marxists call Capitalism I just see as Liberalism insofar as it extends to economic life
And Liberalism I believe would not be able to survive outside mass industrialization
The way I see it we have two theoretical models that do not exist in practice. What we have in practice are markets with varying levels of regulation.
