Message from @CronoSaturn
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something even the greek philosophers pointed out
George Washington even said not to form parties
I disagree and the most successful states have traditionally been democratic. Rightly or wrongly I see trump as a push towards Caesarism.
what did we do? form parties
@CronoSaturn "central line" ya, it seems to have an air of "im tired and i want to cut through the bullshit"
@CronoSaturn which states have been the most successful?
America, the Roman republic, the British empire all have had strong traditions of democracy
Venice in the Middle Ages
The holy Roman empires free cities and the hanseatic league
"I disagree and the most successful states have traditionally been democratic." just based on numbers, the odds arent in your favour, as most governments were monarchies, many of which were "successful"
Except the HRE had elective nations
the kings voted
not the peasents
@PunishedMuskovy not the point
I am using Democratic broadly and the kings voted but the free cities were not ruled by the elector princes and had a hostile relationship to them
The free imperial cities had their mayors elected by the burghers
so democratic as just in voting
even if democracy was a must have id limit who is able to vote
I agree
Venice didnt just let anyone vote
Venice also lacked the capacity to count the vote as we do today or secure it
Venice was not America
clearly we dont either
with illegals getting their votes in
Venice at that time I think was the America economic wise
minus the
debt
Electoral fraud is not a significant factor in any American election
Doesnt mean we shouldnt try and fix it
I agree
But I don’t think it’s a death knell
The death knell may be the electorates unwillingness to take the time and effort to understand their own society however
still, if it gets big enough to be news worthy
I think its a big enough issue
58,000 votes
Untrue. The news is confirmation bias and Twitter is not a legitimate source
Ratings is not truth
Ken Paxton is the Texas Attorney General
It was found by the texas secretary of state