Message from @PunishedMuskovy
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now in shit like california its not an issue
Your govt is in shutdown
because its fucking cali they will be blue no matter what
@CronoSaturn Im talking about the future
Right but there are significant problems right now
Probably solve those first yeah?
why not also stop shit that could be a problem in the future
I agree that it’s an issue, just not a pressing one
aite, back to the discussion of democracy
I think the inability for citizens, be it trump or any other leader, to provide and back a clear mandate is concerning
Is this relating to current problems, or your view on democracy vs authoritarianism
I don’t agree with the wall but that was his platform and so the govt shutting down due to lack of consensus is an issue
And both, the people are failing themselves
And that is my problem with democracy, the people voted trump in
but the other people is slowing shit down
Given the swing much of them are the same people
Democracy divides the people and prevents any real progress
Washington warned us
dont form parties he said
and what did we do? we formed parties
which clearly shows that the general populace is not smart enough to be a reliable decider of policies
The ironic thing is, both the republicans and democrats are nearly the same
just differing on some issues
unless someone like Bernie wins it will just be the extension of the status quo
Democrats: Gun control, healthcare, palestine, racial issues
Republicans: no gun control, lowering taxes, israel
Parties are a natural emergence from establishing coalitions and Washington is not the authority on democracy. And this is the issue. America is a highly capable country as is. Very little needs to be changed
The problem really seems to be representative democracy
it almost looks like Republicans just want to undo what dems do
Minor adjustments
@..... how so?
but Republicans wont undo things that may make people call them a nazi
which is why trump cucked on the lgbt
@Scipio Americanus It just encourages politicians to pander to people
Representatives assist in allowing the mob to make more educated decisions
I think a direct democracy (for a small community, obviously) would be better
true, but you also need some of that
@..... direct for small communities sure
direct for the nation?
absolutely not
Of course not