Message from @CronoSaturn

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2019-01-26 04:02:57 UTC  

I think the inability for citizens, be it trump or any other leader, to provide and back a clear mandate is concerning

2019-01-26 04:03:39 UTC  

Is this relating to current problems, or your view on democracy vs authoritarianism

2019-01-26 04:04:11 UTC  

I don’t agree with the wall but that was his platform and so the govt shutting down due to lack of consensus is an issue

2019-01-26 04:04:27 UTC  

And both, the people are failing themselves

2019-01-26 04:04:36 UTC  

And that is my problem with democracy, the people voted trump in

2019-01-26 04:04:48 UTC  

but the other people is slowing shit down

2019-01-26 04:05:19 UTC  

Given the swing much of them are the same people

2019-01-26 04:05:25 UTC  

Democracy divides the people and prevents any real progress

2019-01-26 04:05:40 UTC  

Washington warned us

2019-01-26 04:05:45 UTC  

dont form parties he said

2019-01-26 04:05:55 UTC  

and what did we do? we formed parties

2019-01-26 04:06:19 UTC  

which clearly shows that the general populace is not smart enough to be a reliable decider of policies

2019-01-26 04:06:54 UTC  

The ironic thing is, both the republicans and democrats are nearly the same

2019-01-26 04:07:00 UTC  

just differing on some issues

2019-01-26 04:07:31 UTC  

unless someone like Bernie wins it will just be the extension of the status quo

2019-01-26 04:08:11 UTC  

Democrats: Gun control, healthcare, palestine, racial issues

2019-01-26 04:08:30 UTC  

Republicans: no gun control, lowering taxes, israel

2019-01-26 04:08:31 UTC  

Parties are a natural emergence from establishing coalitions and Washington is not the authority on democracy. And this is the issue. America is a highly capable country as is. Very little needs to be changed

2019-01-26 04:08:45 UTC  

The problem really seems to be representative democracy

2019-01-26 04:08:46 UTC  

it almost looks like Republicans just want to undo what dems do

2019-01-26 04:08:47 UTC  

Minor adjustments

2019-01-26 04:09:07 UTC  

@..... how so?

2019-01-26 04:09:18 UTC  

but Republicans wont undo things that may make people call them a nazi

2019-01-26 04:09:24 UTC  

which is why trump cucked on the lgbt

2019-01-26 04:09:31 UTC  

@Scipio Americanus It just encourages politicians to pander to people

2019-01-26 04:09:36 UTC  

Representatives assist in allowing the mob to make more educated decisions

2019-01-26 04:09:41 UTC  

I think a direct democracy (for a small community, obviously) would be better

2019-01-26 04:09:49 UTC  

true, but you also need some of that

2019-01-26 04:09:52 UTC  

@..... direct for small communities sure

2019-01-26 04:09:58 UTC  

direct for the nation?

2019-01-26 04:10:01 UTC  

absolutely not

2019-01-26 04:10:04 UTC  

Of course not

2019-01-26 04:10:14 UTC  

Small communities, small problems exactly

2019-01-26 04:10:15 UTC  

ya, instead of these "commissioners"

2019-01-26 04:10:17 UTC  

Representative democracy on a mass scale encourages pandering

2019-01-26 04:10:25 UTC  

Is that bad?

2019-01-26 04:10:42 UTC  

@CronoSaturn to some extent yes

2019-01-26 04:10:46 UTC  

If I could change America, I would go about removing several amendments like letting women vote

2019-01-26 04:10:56 UTC  

It seems that’s the desired outcome. A servant of the people

2019-01-26 04:11:08 UTC  

@PunishedMuskovy do you take cold medicine?

2019-01-26 04:11:12 UTC  

changing it so while it is still what the nation was founded upon, it isnt retarded