if this shit goes unchecked, texas may aswell go blue

Right but it’s not an issue at this time, nor has it been, correct?

It currently is an issue

What effect does it cause?

now in shit like california its not an issue

Your govt is in shutdown

because its fucking cali they will be blue no matter what

@CronoSaturn Im talking about the future

Right but there are significant problems right now

Probably solve those first yeah?

why not also stop shit that could be a problem in the future

I agree that it’s an issue, just not a pressing one

aite, back to the discussion of democracy

I think the inability for citizens, be it trump or any other leader, to provide and back a clear mandate is concerning

Is this relating to current problems, or your view on democracy vs authoritarianism

I don’t agree with the wall but that was his platform and so the govt shutting down due to lack of consensus is an issue

And both, the people are failing themselves

And that is my problem with democracy, the people voted trump in

but the other people is slowing shit down

Given the swing much of them are the same people

Democracy divides the people and prevents any real progress

Washington warned us

dont form parties he said

and what did we do? we formed parties

which clearly shows that the general populace is not smart enough to be a reliable decider of policies

The ironic thing is, both the republicans and democrats are nearly the same

just differing on some issues

unless someone like Bernie wins it will just be the extension of the status quo

Democrats: Gun control, healthcare, palestine, racial issues

Republicans: no gun control, lowering taxes, israel

Parties are a natural emergence from establishing coalitions and Washington is not the authority on democracy. And this is the issue. America is a highly capable country as is. Very little needs to be changed

The problem really seems to be representative democracy

it almost looks like Republicans just want to undo what dems do

Minor adjustments

@..... how so?

but Republicans wont undo things that may make people call them a nazi

which is why trump cucked on the lgbt

@Scipio Americanus It just encourages politicians to pander to people

Representatives assist in allowing the mob to make more educated decisions

I think a direct democracy (for a small community, obviously) would be better

true, but you also need some of that