Message from @Kazimir Malevich
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@Scipio Americanus why bring up cold medicine though
i just take it if my allergy pill didnt work with my constant sneezing
i know i dont have a cold, i just want those damn sneezes to stop
no, its a symptom of a decadent society **in this context**
So what is the root in your opinion
@PunishedMuskovy because it doesn't actually make you less sick
yea it just gets rid of the symptoms
while rhinovirus is still in your blood
@CronoSaturn like, out of this context? your right
@PunishedMuskovy so lets focus on getting rid of the virus that our republic has, not the symptoms it has
what is the virus then?
Liberalism?
thats part of what im asking
Id have to say liberalism
@PunishedMuskovy liberalism is new, this problem is not
well if you really want to go there
then the people who are pushing such symptoms onto us
@CronoSaturn@PunishedMuskovy i have refined my question, when the time comes, should we give up freedom for security?
depends on what kind of freedom you are asking
for what kind of security
thats what scares me, i dont understand how one must feel to make that decision
@Kazimir Malevich thats a cop-opt statement (ironically)
Doesn't make it any less true.
I don’t think freedom can exist without security
I definitely don’t think liberalism is the cause however. Liberalism has been a consistent feature of the American project
Your choices are confined by threat.
that just occurred to me actually
@CronoSaturn so.. faced by that threat... is there any option at all?
sorry, somthing seems missing, but im having a hard time even thinking of the right question to ask
Yes. Worst case theres the option to die or comply. As satre said you are free in that radical sense
But that is not a desirable degree of freedom
Freedom does not exist in the absence of order
Would it be the freedom to do whatever I wish with myself?
Yes I would give that up
Because the state must protect its citizens
so, to prevent this situation, we must restore order before it comes to this point
even if it has to protect you
from yourself
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