Message from @Προμηθεύς {Caustic Dreamer}
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as white nations
they are frozen in time
just like we are
Your genetic traits, so long as they are selected for, will be passed on forever
They don't go away
historically asians were seen as an inferior and less developed race and the growth of japan, china and korea dispell this notion pretty handily.
race in isolation of other factors is not useful in predicting outcomes as other factors, class, education, upbringing, nutrition, etc are more useful in predicting those outcomes.
genetic diversity is the collection of a number of specialties across a population. Your genes are not effected by who enters or leaves society and visa versa. If you fuck and produce kids then clearly whatever you and your partner have were good enough so you have more of that and on it goes.
and where is this frozen in time bullshit? we're chatting away on discord, some of us on iPhones. I didnt have these growing up
my genetic traits are often the result of blocks of snps which is not how genes are passed on, being an almost random scramble of 50% of my and 50% of the mother's dna. as such theres plenty of traits that will not be shared between me and my offspring. As dominant and recessive traits are also a thing it is fully possible that the child may present traits inherited from me that I don't exhibit.
for example the chances are low that if i have kids they'll agree with me that cilantro tastes like soap
being gay is mental health disorder. The mental health departments must take care of it. There is nothing to be proud of having a retarded mental health, except of the success they achieve in their ignorance!
Mental health “treatment” of homosexuality is ineffective and, as shown by Alan Turing, impacts the the ability for otherwise highly functional members of society to contribute. Such action is counter productive and so our efforts should be directed elsewhere
That’s gross but whether that remains true in the wake of CRISPR remains to be seen. In any case, the efficacy of the current policy is high with lower suicide rates, more active participation and lower anti-social activity (drug use etc). It’s not for me, but I’ve no intent of paying the cost to prevent others.
CRISPr wouldn't be able to change your sex after birth though?
nope
crispr works by changing small parts of small sections of DNA in single cells
even if you could use crispr on that scale
you'd still be a male
you cant change fundamental organs and hormone producers that late on via crispr
crispr could be used to change a baby's gender while it's still a single cell though
People also like to forget that trait expression occurs through the interaction between all of the genes
The process of switching your genitals (with genetic surgery) would likely mutate you in all sorts of unpredictable ways
Talk about fun
While *conventionally* crispr works on sections of 5-62 snps in length research has been produced that modifications on the chromosome level can be achieved using more sophisticated systems based off crispr (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5701507/)
Gene therapy on living, non-foetal humans is a thing and while its not crispr and doesnt alter the germline, the fda have already approved some therapies (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fda-approves-first-gene-therapy-targeting-rare-form-of-inherited-blindness/)
Similar therapies have been applied to mice, although less drastic then whole chromosome changes, and have produced gonads from ovary tissue even in adult mice. (http://www.nature.com/articles/doi:10.1038/nature10239.epdf?referrer_access_token=hax10QzzhDI3fcT-mqChgdRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0M4XOxFUe7RjcK8uhFNlVNMDj2L4Zri-24wu5Him9mFuMe8QXDBn3Zk-Xypue-kSu3wh3hvIqxZpZvQiLeUYxGQjTT4GhRyh9dNR2T40yRCVZDnTo3chBs1BL4qZiZmzRroqJeFWSQS3B4rc6fI02NQKyJwOnhoiXdMiHK62PNK_NZfgjHZppNqWZPDnpCUay9JI6VFJBzEGycmUEkCGiG52a5HKC_-1alGBfuXU8oTcMc8S2AhyoY3Gk4jmJJn3Ps%3D&tracking_referrer=blogs.discovermagazine.com)
Individual traits do not require an interaction with the entire genome and protein sequences can and do express the same traits even when transplanted across species. (https://www.theverge.com/2013/12/30/5256732/scientists-create-glow-in-the-dark-pigs-using-jellyfish-dna)
So end of the day, while the technology is very immature there is substantial reason to believe that fully functional, biological gender swaps could be accomplished as the technology matures. Reports are conflicting, and china is always a dubious source, but tests seem to have been conducted despite ethical concerns on adults (https://qz.com/1185488/chinese-scientists-used-crispr-gene-editing-on-86-human-patients/) and more controversially, on the germline of kids apparently (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-27/china-gene-edited-babies/10556676)
Either way, I don't know everything so I could very well be wrong. Thanks for talking to me about this, I've gotta go though. I'll talk to you all later.
second round
government structure idea: an unequal bicameral system, main body: senate: half by popular election from the various counties/states/States; the other half is elected via government (perhaps pre-17th Amendment style idk). all bureaucracy is under the senate, and the senate can delegate its power (not 100% sure on this part tbh). then all laws or regulations must then pass through a vote of what is essentially a Representative democracy in the most primitive sense. i want a large body with middle/working class people being a check on the government. all laws require 50% majority to become law from this body. in addition, this Rep Dem body can draw proposals to give to the senate, if 2/3 majority is achieved, its mandatory that the senate do something.
@Scipio Americanus by elected by govt I presume you mean the bureaucracy? In many ways this is already the most powerful body in government, why do you feel it should be represented in the senate?
Thank you for posting a 4chan post in the serious discussion channel, you dumb basterd. @RealBullWhip
@CronoSaturn uhhhhhhh, i was unsure about that one, its rather situational, for instance, the EU would need something like that given its treaty status and powerful establishment (you have to throw them a bone to get them on board unfortunately). A more legitimate reason would be that national/state/province/county etc. wide elections leave out people (ya, know, the ones that lost the elections) and in some cases in might be necessary to have the vote be done in some alternative way.
@Scipio Americanus I see your point but I worry without having a cohesive endstate it’s difficult to do anything but solve problems as they crop up, rather than proactively making improvements. With that in mind, would having seats associated with a set number of people, rather than a geographical boundary, accomplish that better? That way you have representation fitting the popular support as closely mapping as the number of seats allows
@CronoSaturn hmmm, i have thought of something like that, but had no idea how to do it, or even where to start. I would love to hear your input
Basically you would take the population of the electorate and divide that by the amount of seats. As soon as that amount of votes is reached, they’ve gained a seat. No subdivisions, no seats tied to regions
I think this makes sense as regional representation shouldn’t be sought on the federal but the local / state level