treat science like an absolute

I mean there are many ways to view the universe, one of them is your default atheist position, which denies any kind of divinity, and the other way is to view the universe and the matter-energy totality and life within it as the divine item. I belong to the latter camp. Fedoras or not.

when it is an evergrowing chronicle of human understanding with very few if any absolutes

Are atoms alive? Do you stop at the cellular level?

They try to disprove God’s existence using God’s laws of logic

i'd define life as uh

the ability to reproduce and adapt

Do you have free will?

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probably not

Free will doesn't exist

Kinda interesting how god would craft laws of logic that disprove himself

Oops

this debate is getting spicy

God certainly isn't necessary consideration in the equation. But neither is him lacking from it.

As for free will, that debate is up in the air. But it would seem like we don't have it.

there's a bunch of hypocrisies in the bible

like how god is all-knowing but doesn't know sin

but 🤷

bible barely makes sense

the bible's over 2000 years old

If you don’t have free will, then you aren’t actually making any of these arguments, your arguments are just a product of random chemical processes. So I win the debate. Thank you

and has been translated several dozen times

Nobody said they were random

I dont even see how that follows

run the communist manifesto through google translate a few times

@FreshWholeMilk that would apply to all of us. so the correct answer is that nobody wins in the subjective sense.

Still not your choice to make the arguments

see if it makes any sense

The bible is big-brainy and you should take god as an egoistic god just to make the direct dialogues viable

bible is for big headed people

okay, what?

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No one chooses to believe anything

Bible makes very little sense indeed. And, say what you say of science, but its findings make a whole lot more sense.

i don't have faith in algebra

His much of the bible have you read?

i like the old testament the most

everything else is kinda like a spinoff

I like the part where god couldn’t beat the canaanites because they had iron chariots

So you're a jew?

oh shit i forgot