Message from @FreshWholeMilk
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I've figured that the best moral system is the one that is closely aligned with the truth
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But the problem is no two people view truth the same
@FreshWholeMilk I fail to see what that is supposed to mean.
there's a political divide in the schools between the gays and everyone else which is coming close to a boiling point
How do you determine the truth?
How can a moral system be aligned with truth at all?
>Okay, you may be driven to do something, but I don't like what you're driven by?
All normative claims are subjective
Honestly, why does it matter?
trudeau is apologising to everyone and nothing is getting done
Seems like the goals are being shifted
You just said earlier there is no purpose to life in the atheist worldview
parliament is mostly down to screaming matches between the conservatives and liberals
Now you are attacking what gives that purpose
Because it’s arbitrary
either canada's about to enter a political age akin to the 2016 election in america
It’s as arbitrary as god giving you purpose
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```But the problem is no two people view truth the same```
Yeah, something that is the awkward but necessary byproduct of living in a relativistic universe. Now, I think that while there *is* one unifying truth, no two observers can realistically ever see it the same way. We only perceive echoes of the truth, and the closest we get to truth is by combining our perspectives and ideas, combined with trial and error.
or this is the last kick of the dead body of the canadian conservative party
People insist the bible is objective, and sure, it is, but people certainly don't interpret it the way they're supposed to, do they?
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i think it might be time to open the debate hall @The Big Oof
Not only that but even if god existed, so what if you did anything wrong?
bible is full of inconsistencies, to a point that it can be best described as a gestalt collection of subjectivist ramblings of several subsequent Levantine generations
@FreshWholeMilk But you're not inclined, to, which is why it's a rarity <:30yoboomer:521380551316209668>
Do people in China go around eating their babies and raping children?
you're going to need to point to that happening
rather than dealing purely in hypotheticals
What non-theistic country rapes children and eats babies?
Idk they eat dogs and that’s pretty fucked up
~~israel~~
(((The Bible)))
Eating dogs isn't really that weird, but I still think it's disgusting
Dogs are our eternal allies, but they're still not us, don't get civnatic.
human morality ultimately stems from our material reality and conditions - that includes stage of development, degree of scarcity and, yes, genes as well
the genome of man is probably unified in form enough for it to produce roughly similar ethical societies with slight variations here and there
so we can't say that we get our morality from the bible
we don't