Message from @Ventruvi
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the left in canada pushed me
I think you have to edgelord it to make it into either the top-left corner of red quadrant, or the top-right corner of the blue quadrant
Oh, so you're a reactionary. Makes sense.
also
i'm anti-abortion anti-immigration anti-gay marriage and anti-LGBT
most people call movements that aren't leftist, "leftist"
So you're normal
i guess
the vast majority of political movements are centrist in nature
"Leftist" tends to refer to neo-liberalis
....
i also hate trudeau with a passion
but they are like
anti-leftist
lmao
That's not what I meant
I meant that's how people define Leftist
Not that was what a leftist is
that's utterly ridiculous though
But that's what they think
also apparently believing first generation immigrants cant fully integrate with society makes me right wing
I would define Leftist as socialist and anything beyond that
I mean I think its very hard to argue that Bernie Sanders is like a genuine leftist either
and yes
I agree
Bernie Sanders is a welfare capitalist
bernie sanders is a socialist
leftism is synonymous with socialism and its various schools of thought, whether that be communism, mutualism, anarchism, syndicalism, etc.
Nah, he isn't a socialist
he isn't
no
he is a social democrat
he thinks socialism = FDR and Europe
basically the same thing
now, social democrats *used* to be leftists
but they aren't anymore
haven't been for half a century
they used to want social ownership of means of production
but that was since then dropped
what people tend to call socialist countries are normally social democratic
for example, I'd consider the Strasserists to be absolutely leftists, despite being national socialists, and this is due to the economic views of Otto Strasser