Message from @Space Bird

Discord ID: 522310017282605083


2018-12-12 06:55:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/522305408019202068/dfi5sf4rooc11.jpg

2018-12-12 06:55:18 UTC  

And you divide equally

2018-12-12 06:55:24 UTC  

As need be

2018-12-12 06:55:24 UTC  

Based AnCom

2018-12-12 06:55:32 UTC  

i do, moat of lava, no step

2018-12-12 06:55:50 UTC  

Minecraft is the one place where ancom is used

2018-12-12 06:56:44 UTC  

false the commies say mien kraft is a recrutement tool for ze alt reich

2018-12-12 06:57:18 UTC  

Stop being a boomer

2018-12-12 06:57:27 UTC  

Nvm, you can't

2018-12-12 06:57:44 UTC  

damn reich i cant

2018-12-12 06:57:50 UTC  

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2018-12-12 07:01:03 UTC  

i gotta stop with the dad puns

2018-12-12 07:08:22 UTC  

speaking of Venezuela, you guys are informed on the fact that Venezuela's public revenues were utterly evaporated due to the US-Saudi oil war on Russia and Iran, right? That between 50-60% of the public revenues totally disappeared as a result? The collapse of that country wasn't exactly a domestically originated event. And in fact most data would back the argument up, showing that Venezuela was doing quite strongly on many indicators right up until 2012-2014 period when the shenanigans began and the country's economy suddenly collapsed

2018-12-12 07:11:15 UTC  

supply increased, prices fell, conspiracy against minor player..... if you want to cry conspiracy, do so against russia, not the fags in venezuela, but the USA is now an energy exporter as of 6 months after trump got into office, 4 months after he deregulated what obama regulated vie EO

2018-12-12 07:12:23 UTC  

inflations for example were at their lowest point since 1980s during Chavez era...and of course, they jumped extremely high following the beginnings of the economic war - economic war not necessarily directed against Venezuela but on Iran and Russia, the means of which proved devastating to Venezuelan economy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/522309728831930368/Venezuela_historic_inflation_vs._oil_revenue.png

2018-12-12 07:12:52 UTC  

they were failing reguardless of the US, but i am happy the US is finally exporting

2018-12-12 07:13:00 UTC  

except that they *weren't* failing

2018-12-12 07:13:17 UTC  

HDI and education levels took sharp increase too during Chavez era

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/522309954540011520/venezuela1.png

2018-12-12 07:13:22 UTC  

yea they were they required 100/b oil

2018-12-12 07:13:32 UTC  

its been well under that for some time

2018-12-12 07:14:12 UTC  

Venezuela's economy was heavily reliant oil, to the exclusion of many other industries (kind of like in Libya but not quite as bad) and while they were diversifying some aspects of the economy they couldn't pull it off fast enough

2018-12-12 07:14:12 UTC  

and their production is shit because they were not upkeeping their rigs and lines

2018-12-12 07:14:53 UTC  

extreme poverty rate also managed to be brought to historic lows under Chavez

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/522310357197389834/INE_Venezuela_poverty_rate_1990_to_2013.png

2018-12-12 07:15:24 UTC  

heavy industry is high maintenance, and the gov did not do so, they gave the money to politicians instead of production

2018-12-12 07:16:04 UTC  

so now their output is way down and as prices are way down they are double screwed for their bad crude

2018-12-12 07:16:31 UTC  

and it is bad, it needs to be cut with light crude in order to be refined

2018-12-12 07:16:45 UTC  

So ultimately in Venezuela you had a functioning country that was making progress across a multitude of development indicators, both social and economic, and it was then brought down by factors ultimately external to itself and due to US geopolitics vs. Russia. So the "muh Venezuela" argument is really just very myopic and not very well informed.

2018-12-12 07:17:42 UTC  

you had a monoculture that assumed prices would only ever rise, they believed the bullshit leftist peek oil, and that is retarded

2018-12-12 07:18:18 UTC  

sorry but that is not how tech and reality works, oil is everywhere, almost

2018-12-12 07:18:19 UTC  

@Space Bird Lol I recognize you

2018-12-12 07:18:24 UTC  

You pussied out on the private debate

2018-12-12 07:18:28 UTC  

they were trying to diversify btw, as previously mentioned. they had a huge task ahead of them, trying to build a functional country out of what was frankly a shithole before Chavez took office

2018-12-12 07:18:40 UTC  

i have no idea who you are......

2018-12-12 07:18:44 UTC  

literally

2018-12-12 07:18:49 UTC  

Ah, nvm

2018-12-12 07:18:50 UTC  

and the final analysis doesn't lie: the reason why it came down was due to the US-Saudi oil war

2018-12-12 07:18:53 UTC  

without it,

2018-12-12 07:18:59 UTC  

it wouldn't have collapsed

2018-12-12 07:19:03 UTC  

this is rather simple and accurate analysis

2018-12-12 07:19:09 UTC  

It was likely another person with a similar pfp