it's so fucking incredible

we all agree that liberalism needs to die

Spain is okay, they didn't get in alot of foreign immigrants

yeah liberalism needs to go and die, preferably someplace uncomfortable

like literally, Finland banned their so called far right party but apparently far right is on the rise

Liberalism is mainstream throughout the west

It wont die

>You say that, but I think that there's just been a general lull in socialist movements, in large part due to the dissolution of USSR.

yeah i can agree.... but the people who have spat in the face of the USSR i think is just astounding, mostly Stalin. I'd support any revolutionary movement tbh

Liberalism as a position i can actually respect

unlike commies

Spain currently accepts the most foreign immigrants

there is some sense to it

there is no virtue to liberalism

Well then Spain is going downhill

>well then spain is going downhill

PSOE is dying, they're the status quo, as is PP, Spain is not going downhill

@aymem so even far left parties in spain are constitutionalist? that's pretty sad dude

why tf did Spanish vote for Podemos y'all know left is so messed up rn 😩

our far left party would be PODEMOS, and yeah

Taking in foreign immigrants means destroying your peoples own identity

>but the people who have spat in the face of the USSR i think is just astounding

there's a movement, perhaps mostly on /leftypol/ at this stage, which resists this tendency. I'd say most in that clique have managed to hit that sweet spot of critical support for Soviet style politics, although there exits the usual uncritical variety as well which is generally not good and usually leads to further failures down the road

>leftypol

lmao

@Xinyue and i use the political spectrum in the liberal version btw, i know they're not left wing by your definition

I was talking about /leftypol/ so wp 😄

The Spanish Socialist Workers Party or PSOE certainly does not deserve the name it operates under

There is no hope for Europe as long as the elite remains in place

Barcelona treaty 1995

it is neither socialist, nor for workers

do you think Spain will deport all the migrants?

@Xinyue oh my fucking god, they're called the socialist party, and anybody who supports PSOE is a socialist, and Podemos is called the communist party

it's so fucking mindboggling

@AdorableStormtrooper no, not even VOX would

Europe will never deport

PSOE is basically just another socdem party

No western country will deport ever

how it gets pegged as socialist is beyond me

>basically

it IS

Unless it's illegals

But those aren't the problem

it is the socdem party

but our right wing parties are also socdem