we will turn you catholic again

o.o

the left has been going downhill for some time imo

Europeans lack the drive that Americans possess

everything below me is gay

>everything above me is authoritarian fascims

Americans can actually change things through politics because of their drive

fam....

Europeans are just low energy

Y'all call Merkel Right Wing in Europe so i don't even know anymore what you mean by Left

LUL

^^^^

omg....

this

so

fucking

much

> this was my point from earlier though, I genuinely don't think socialism can be revived anymore, same for fascism, you only have liberal forms of it

You say that, but I think that there's just been a general lull in socialist movements, in large part due to the dissolution of USSR. this was a huge event for the world socialist movement, something that sent us in a downwards spiral. But, we can make a comeback - in some sense, Bolivarian Revolution which itself took place years after the USSR's dissolution, showed us the way - despite all the failures

our right wing party is more liberal than america's liberal party

it's so fucking incredible

we all agree that liberalism needs to die

Spain is okay, they didn't get in alot of foreign immigrants

yeah liberalism needs to go and die, preferably someplace uncomfortable

like literally, Finland banned their so called far right party but apparently far right is on the rise

Liberalism is mainstream throughout the west

It wont die

>You say that, but I think that there's just been a general lull in socialist movements, in large part due to the dissolution of USSR.

yeah i can agree.... but the people who have spat in the face of the USSR i think is just astounding, mostly Stalin. I'd support any revolutionary movement tbh

Liberalism as a position i can actually respect

unlike commies

Spain currently accepts the most foreign immigrants

there is some sense to it

there is no virtue to liberalism

Well then Spain is going downhill

>well then spain is going downhill

PSOE is dying, they're the status quo, as is PP, Spain is not going downhill

@aymem so even far left parties in spain are constitutionalist? that's pretty sad dude

why tf did Spanish vote for Podemos y'all know left is so messed up rn 😩

our far left party would be PODEMOS, and yeah

Taking in foreign immigrants means destroying your peoples own identity

>but the people who have spat in the face of the USSR i think is just astounding

there's a movement, perhaps mostly on /leftypol/ at this stage, which resists this tendency. I'd say most in that clique have managed to hit that sweet spot of critical support for Soviet style politics, although there exits the usual uncritical variety as well which is generally not good and usually leads to further failures down the road

>leftypol

lmao