there is no virtue to liberalism

Well then Spain is going downhill

>well then spain is going downhill

PSOE is dying, they're the status quo, as is PP, Spain is not going downhill

@aymem so even far left parties in spain are constitutionalist? that's pretty sad dude

why tf did Spanish vote for Podemos y'all know left is so messed up rn 😩

our far left party would be PODEMOS, and yeah

Taking in foreign immigrants means destroying your peoples own identity

>but the people who have spat in the face of the USSR i think is just astounding

there's a movement, perhaps mostly on /leftypol/ at this stage, which resists this tendency. I'd say most in that clique have managed to hit that sweet spot of critical support for Soviet style politics, although there exits the usual uncritical variety as well which is generally not good and usually leads to further failures down the road

>leftypol

lmao

@Xinyue and i use the political spectrum in the liberal version btw, i know they're not left wing by your definition

I was talking about /leftypol/ so wp 😄

The Spanish Socialist Workers Party or PSOE certainly does not deserve the name it operates under

There is no hope for Europe as long as the elite remains in place

Barcelona treaty 1995

it is neither socialist, nor for workers

do you think Spain will deport all the migrants?

@Xinyue oh my fucking god, they're called the socialist party, and anybody who supports PSOE is a socialist, and Podemos is called the communist party

it's so fucking mindboggling

@AdorableStormtrooper no, not even VOX would

Europe will never deport

PSOE is basically just another socdem party

No western country will deport ever

how it gets pegged as socialist is beyond me

>basically

it IS

Unless it's illegals

But those aren't the problem

it is the socdem party

but our right wing parties are also socdem

the only difference is that the right wing party has a huge christian base because they pretend to care about christians

even Podemos is pretty socdem

and the left wing with feminism and equality and the nordic fucking retarded model

all of our parties are identical

there is no difference to them

how are the Invaders in Spain coming through the Ceuta Wall not illegals 😩

this is liberal democracy in action

like sure PSUV and the Bolivarian Revolution was kind of lazy with the whole socialism thing, but at least you can see their theory being explicitly socialist and their programs moving towards that etc. With PSOE - and I did read the platform - its literally just some weird thing about online equality or some shit? I was reading a google translation of the spanish original text

@AdorableStormtrooper they are, but we give them free healthcare and a place to stay while we face our crippling economy and shitty unemployment rate

I was dumbstruck and in disbelief

I just find it incredible people believe their bullshit

also pedro sanchez is not white