Message from @CrowGoCaw

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2018-12-16 15:53:11 UTC  

how dare you

2018-12-16 15:53:25 UTC  

fak u Storm

2018-12-16 15:53:26 UTC  

go away

2018-12-16 15:53:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/523890417905827875/IMG_20181216_024407.jpg

2018-12-16 15:53:41 UTC  

that though *is* what materialism is

2018-12-16 15:53:46 UTC  

and that has no connection to capitalism

2018-12-16 15:53:48 UTC  

yes

2018-12-16 15:53:54 UTC  

it's completely fucking retarded

2018-12-16 15:53:57 UTC  

this is why *Marxism* is materialist

2018-12-16 15:54:07 UTC  

but why capitalist philosophies might be idealist

2018-12-16 15:54:32 UTC  

> it's completely fucking retarded

maintaining that the world exists independently of the mind is retarded

*.....ok then*

2018-12-16 15:55:11 UTC  

Capitalists want us to be individuals in a Global Market devoid of any identity, culture, tribe, tradition or custom.. they want us all to be the Same/Equal, so they can sell their product to us which is supposed to give us a sustaining meaning in life

2018-12-16 15:55:21 UTC  

yes but that is not materialist

2018-12-16 15:55:28 UTC  

That is how i see Libertarians argue

2018-12-16 15:55:29 UTC  

that's just "muh profit motive"

2018-12-16 15:55:43 UTC  

"muh incentives"

2018-12-16 15:55:53 UTC  

You define words in ways that benefit your ideology.. which is great i guess..

2018-12-16 15:55:57 UTC  

selfishness for the material

2018-12-16 15:55:58 UTC  

uh, no

2018-12-16 15:56:07 UTC  

materialism is actually something that has existed for hundreds of years

2018-12-16 15:56:11 UTC  

its not materialist but it is very hedonistic and bland

2018-12-16 15:56:15 UTC  

its a school of thought in philosophy

2018-12-16 15:56:26 UTC  

the maximum profits and pleasures for porky plz

2018-12-16 15:56:43 UTC  

currency=potential things

2018-12-16 15:56:46 UTC  

and itself it makes no claim on hedonism being good or something, its just a statement on what existences are primary and what are emergent, etc.

2018-12-16 15:57:21 UTC  

im saying capitalism is very hedonistic incase you were wondering not materialism

2018-12-16 15:57:26 UTC  

in fact Marxists were often anti-hedonists, and urged the importance of socialist and communist virtue, and made *materialist arguments for this*

2018-12-16 15:57:27 UTC  

ffs

2018-12-16 15:57:32 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/523891438510014475/unknown.png

2018-12-16 15:57:41 UTC  

Evola was a tool

2018-12-16 15:58:05 UTC  

here's the thing with xinu, "look at the plans, the literature, the theory, stop looking at the Result IRL, that's not real/proper/enough of [insert ideology]

2018-12-16 15:58:10 UTC  

@Xinyue i was commenting on capitalism not marxism, marxism is typically against hedonism but then again intersectionality and leftist idpol exists

2018-12-16 15:58:16 UTC  

I'm not hearing a rebutal

2018-12-16 15:58:22 UTC  

can't wait for that epic queer anarchist revolution

2018-12-16 15:58:39 UTC  

@Xinyue <:brainlet:508484031625691156>

2018-12-16 15:58:47 UTC  

capitalism is materialistic

2018-12-16 15:58:53 UTC  

^

2018-12-16 15:59:05 UTC  

as an Ideological Goal it is

2018-12-16 15:59:15 UTC  

that Evola quote for example absolutely disregards that Marxism is *not* merely about just "muh distribution, muh goods", there's a content of meaning to it and reasoning for what is essential to human beings, why we exist and what we ought to strive towards

2018-12-16 15:59:25 UTC  

but trust people who never read Marx and Engels to be oblivious to this