Message from @CrowGoCaw
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Capitalists want us to be individuals in a Global Market devoid of any identity, culture, tribe, tradition or custom.. they want us all to be the Same/Equal, so they can sell their product to us which is supposed to give us a sustaining meaning in life
yes but that is not materialist
That is how i see Libertarians argue
that's just "muh profit motive"
"muh incentives"
You define words in ways that benefit your ideology.. which is great i guess..
selfishness for the material
uh, no
materialism is actually something that has existed for hundreds of years
its not materialist but it is very hedonistic and bland
its a school of thought in philosophy
the maximum profits and pleasures for porky plz
currency=potential things
and itself it makes no claim on hedonism being good or something, its just a statement on what existences are primary and what are emergent, etc.
im saying capitalism is very hedonistic incase you were wondering not materialism
in fact Marxists were often anti-hedonists, and urged the importance of socialist and communist virtue, and made *materialist arguments for this*
ffs
Evola was a tool
here's the thing with xinu, "look at the plans, the literature, the theory, stop looking at the Result IRL, that's not real/proper/enough of [insert ideology]
@Xinyue i was commenting on capitalism not marxism, marxism is typically against hedonism but then again intersectionality and leftist idpol exists
I'm not hearing a rebutal
can't wait for that epic queer anarchist revolution
Queer Nationalism when?
capitalism is materialistic
^
as an Ideological Goal it is
that Evola quote for example absolutely disregards that Marxism is *not* merely about just "muh distribution, muh goods", there's a content of meaning to it and reasoning for what is essential to human beings, why we exist and what we ought to strive towards
but trust people who never read Marx and Engels to be oblivious to this
lmao
but it sprouted due to inequality of the material wealth
it's an ideology
we get it
the entirety of marxist philosophy is based on economics
it's a lifestyle
and economic relationships
like Libertarianism
"y-you've just never read kapital!"
Yes, the philosophy posits that men are shaped by their environment, which is readily observable, and will therefore react to the environment - specifically the relationship between men's objective needs and objects of those needs. But this is merely one part of Marxism, the explanation for why the world is as it is, why history develops as it does, and what can be expected from the future. The entire discourse on labour and its significance to man is outside this analysis.
You're ignoring the other half of the Equation with the statement about Environment and People