Message from @AdorableStormtrooper
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never could have guessed that
raw mental gymnastics
@Alois Hello and welcome
Well firstly when you say that the amount of Grain exports decreased well... what is it supposed to prove?
hello @Bearer Of The Curse
@ecojuche the kulaks were killed because they burned grain and killed livestock, but they were not the 6 bajillion that died in the famine
@Stern all of them?
@Aki the grain exports decreased because they had to keep more to feed people
@Bearer Of The Curse how would i aquire roles
what would cause a farmer to completely eradicate his livelihood?
@Stern where's the evidence?
sure activates my almonds
I'm sure they did it for absolutely no reason
Jesus you guys are still in this discussion, what is it now?
TL;DR "killing food production class doesnt cause mass starvation it was actually the fault of nasty western capitalist hucksters"
Nahhh... nahhh that is autistic. The grain exports decreased because there wasn't enough grain to go around.
yeah, let's not talk about how the Soviets forcefully took all grain from Farmers forcing them to Protest by burning stock @Xinyue didn't address this one time despite me asking on multiple occasions, i guess we all know why
@ecojuche they weren't the food production class, they were the landowner class
kulaks =/= catch all for peasant class
So when you argue that they decreased it as an act of good will you aren't really making a rational argumet there.
and yes, they were peasants
the management in collectives works differently
they weren't billionaires
So what now...
@Stern are you going to present an argument?
@Aki they decreased it to send grain to the actual non-aristocratic peasants
lol
>the management in collectives works differently
by not working?
@Stern the produce was all sent to big cities lol
That is a hella argument you are making there.
Wonder if you ever feel like making it in public on Ukraine.
what?
Lol
@Stern nice retort
I'm not ukrainian
So now you admitt that Stalin policies contiributed to famine but claim that the famine was not a bad thing.
when did I claim this
It was for the greater good
So you are arguing from the position of ideology... and frankly speaking I can't challenge you here because morality is subjective...