a very reliable source

yes, which was a *planned economic system,* meaning they didn't gather data for shits and giggles but for the purposes of actually carrying out their system

will you ever answer that question? lol

@ecojuche wait so you trust a guy that never went to ukraine over the government that ruled over ukraine

🤔

hmmm

seems like some ideology in that statement

further, at least people with my position *have* data to point to. the people who are in the opposite camp have no data on the livestock

@Stern do you trust the govt of North Korea?

"SternDziś o 18:35
@ecojuche they weren't the food production class, they were the landowner class
kulaks =/= catch all for peasant class" "SternDziś o 18:36
@Aki they decreased it to send grain to the actual non-aristocratic peasants"

@AdorableStormtrooper idgaf about nk

@Stern nice way to avoid the question

@Aki yes

@AdorableStormtrooper I answered the question

So what are you even claiming?

@Xinyue will you answer the question mate? why did they protest?

Soviet Union actively needed data on the number of livestock and the state of the crops to even basically function.

@Xinyue ?????

so there's very little reason to think that this data was false

@Xinyue no?

It doesn't appear that you have a goalpost to move.

@Aki I claimed that the kulaks weren't peasants, they were an aristocratic class. someone else brought up the phrases of good and bad peasants

of which I used in quotations

@Xinyue they just randomly burnt crop and killed animals?

@AdorableStormtrooper they protested the seizure of the bourgeois property

no

they killed animals and sabotaged crops on an immense scale because they were capitalists

😄

oh yes, the billionaire Farmer Bourgeoisie, living in great luxury

i love that

not because they were caps tbh

So you claim that the starvation of those peasent was justified?

no

it doesn't matter *why* they did it, they *did it* and this was instrumental for the famine

meanwhile these were poor Farmers doing just ok for themselves

"for themselves"

Notabene the quote I posted earlier preety much debunked it.

are you an individualist

and mind you, they lived in socialist system. its not like they'd be left to hang with no food or shelter. they'd get their share. they just hated the Soviet system so much that they'd rather burn it all to ground in Ukraine than to give the filthy proles to have any

protesting policy that you support is why they did it, maybe not force policy taking people's property from them? @Xinyue

so then no taxes?