@Stern nice way to avoid the question

@Aki yes

@AdorableStormtrooper I answered the question

So what are you even claiming?

@Xinyue will you answer the question mate? why did they protest?

Soviet Union actively needed data on the number of livestock and the state of the crops to even basically function.

@Xinyue ?????

so there's very little reason to think that this data was false

@Xinyue no?

It doesn't appear that you have a goalpost to move.

@Aki I claimed that the kulaks weren't peasants, they were an aristocratic class. someone else brought up the phrases of good and bad peasants

of which I used in quotations

@Xinyue they just randomly burnt crop and killed animals?

@AdorableStormtrooper they protested the seizure of the bourgeois property

no

they killed animals and sabotaged crops on an immense scale because they were capitalists

😄

oh yes, the billionaire Farmer Bourgeoisie, living in great luxury

i love that

not because they were caps tbh

So you claim that the starvation of those peasent was justified?

no

it doesn't matter *why* they did it, they *did it* and this was instrumental for the famine

meanwhile these were poor Farmers doing just ok for themselves

"for themselves"

Notabene the quote I posted earlier preety much debunked it.

are you an individualist

and mind you, they lived in socialist system. its not like they'd be left to hang with no food or shelter. they'd get their share. they just hated the Soviet system so much that they'd rather burn it all to ground in Ukraine than to give the filthy proles to have any

protesting policy that you support is why they did it, maybe not force policy taking people's property from them? @Xinyue

so then no taxes?

nevertheless, they shouldn't have been killed off

that was the big ethical mistake on the Soviet part

```and mind you, they lived in socialist system. its not like they'd be left to hang with no food or shelter. they'd get their share. they just hated the Soviet system so much that they'd rather burn it all to ground in Ukraine than to give the filthy proles to have any```


oh clearly, what happened after their liquidation is the evidence that they'd have definitely gotten their food

their food would definitely not be sent to the cities

and that *is* indeniable, we do know that the Soviets killed the kulaks in response of their obstructionism that led to the famine and this was a moral failing

"we know Nazis invaded Poland because Polish were mistrating ethnic Germans in Poland"

not the same thing, even remotely

@Stern "The statistical distribution of famine's victims among the ethnicities closely reflects the ethnic distribution of the rural population of Ukraine.[99] Moldavian, Polish, German, and Bulgarian population that mostly resided in the rural communities of Ukraine suffered in the same proportion as the rural Ukrainian population.[99]" "Total deaths Vary from 3.3 to 7.5 million, see death toll" But hey only Kulaks died.

but keep drawing pointless connections Storm

it was used as a reason

we get it mate