no murders post murder

I don't know of any major food shortages in 1960s, 1970s for example. I do know that foodstamps are common in US though @AdorableStormtrooper

what does that mean?

@Aki do you deny that agrarian economies can't transport and produce food as well as industrial nations (along with not being able to produce military goods necessary to defend a country in time of war)

Foodstamps are free food

That is not what I asked you for mate.

food stamps shouldn't be common

@Aki ok

but do you deny it

What do food stamps have to do with food shortage

Its the ability to provide people

With food

Even when they can't pay for it

That is the opposite

No?

No I don't but it is in a way outside of the point.

It's leading to the point

ok give me the point then

@Xinyue does everyone deserve food? why?

US economic system is inadequate at delivering food to everyone; hence why they have to create a system outside the economic system to make sure food finds it way to the people the economic system can't reach. Food rationing in general is like this, you work outside the basic economic system to make sure that people get fed. Point is, people *were* fed, clothed and housed and the public sector determined the utilisation of the productive forces. The system did reach the goals that it set out to attain.

That's the Wrong Goals

"do you deny that agrarian economies can't transport and produce food as well as industrial nations (along with not being able to produce military goods necessary to defend a country in time of war)"
since you agree with this point, it's common sense to put industrialization as an emphasis

Subjective opinion on your part @AdorableStormtrooper

But it is adequate at delivering food to everyone

They can still eat

Thats what foodstamps are for

because unindustrialized economies can't produce or transport anything as efficiently as industrial ones

Am I not understanding something

i reserve my right

@Xinyue Your entire ideology depends on this, and i don't believe in a subjective morality, so no.
That is seriously a wrong goal.

Such an abundance of food literally giving it to the homeless and poor

so was Soviet economy after Stalin @Huff everyone did get fed, there was no famine

to challenge the us president to a battle to the death

for

over the control of the us government

free

@Stern Wow and ?

@Huff he's trying to say food stamps are a way of supplying people through government systems when the market system is inadequate (i'm pretty sure, maybe I'm misunderstanding too)

HOLMGANG HOLMGANG HOLMGANG @Ventruvi

@Stern are you going to make an argument?

@Aki alright never mind then