Message from @Huff
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Sovkhoz and Kolkhoz did provide foodstuffs just fine
@Xinyue absolutely no food shortages amiright?
zero famines, yes
Well will you adress it or not?
no food shortages, ever after the holodomor? right? @Xinyue
no murders post murder
I don't know of any major food shortages in 1960s, 1970s for example. I do know that foodstamps are common in US though @AdorableStormtrooper
what does that mean?
@Aki do you deny that agrarian economies can't transport and produce food as well as industrial nations (along with not being able to produce military goods necessary to defend a country in time of war)
Foodstamps are free food
That is not what I asked you for mate.
food stamps shouldn't be common
but do you deny it
What do food stamps have to do with food shortage
Its the ability to provide people
With food
Even when they can't pay for it
That is the opposite
No I don't but it is in a way outside of the point.
It's leading to the point
ok give me the point then
@Xinyue does everyone deserve food? why?
US economic system is inadequate at delivering food to everyone; hence why they have to create a system outside the economic system to make sure food finds it way to the people the economic system can't reach. Food rationing in general is like this, you work outside the basic economic system to make sure that people get fed. Point is, people *were* fed, clothed and housed and the public sector determined the utilisation of the productive forces. The system did reach the goals that it set out to attain.
That's the Wrong Goals
"do you deny that agrarian economies can't transport and produce food as well as industrial nations (along with not being able to produce military goods necessary to defend a country in time of war)"
since you agree with this point, it's common sense to put industrialization as an emphasis
Subjective opinion on your part @AdorableStormtrooper
But it is adequate at delivering food to everyone
They can still eat
Thats what foodstamps are for
because unindustrialized economies can't produce or transport anything as efficiently as industrial ones
Am I not understanding something
i reserve my right
@Xinyue Your entire ideology depends on this, and i don't believe in a subjective morality, so no.
That is seriously a wrong goal.
Such an abundance of food literally giving it to the homeless and poor
so was Soviet economy after Stalin @Huff everyone did get fed, there was no famine
to challenge the us president to a battle to the death
for
over the control of the us government