If its obvious that Moscow would fall he would fucking leave

^

^

He did stay in Moscow @Spookaswa

But it didn't fall

Even if they did take Moscow they would still fight

Stalin is retarded lol

they had 6 million troops on the other side of the mountains, as well as all their military industrial complex bases

like

Of course not

Like in the Napoleonic wars

the war was lost in 1941

But he refused to abandon it

and further, they DIDN'T HAVE THE BLOODY OIL

none of it

it was running out

wehrmacht dead in the water

And if they captured Moscow, all the rail ways in ALL of Russia would have been cut off

Muh central planning lmao

They would need to get as far as the Urals in order for the USSR to be neutralized

Further, we know that during the Battle of Moscow, the Wehrmacht was halted. As in, it suffered casualties probably in the hundreds of thousands - we'll probably never know how much exactly - and the *thrust was halted.*

You think that the USSR would just bend over because muh railways?

kek

Reaching Moscow failed not only in theory, but on the battlefield as well.

@Xinyue IN NOVEMBER

When the tanks froze on the fields

Leaf. Literally millions of Red Army troops in reserve to the East of Moscow.

The Wehrmacht lost its offensive capabilities in 1942

If they reached Moscow in October The Red army was fucked

No transport by rail

No, it would only have been a setback

I get that for the nazis its hard to admit, but the Soviet Union was confident enough on the Eastern Front to keep six million troops in reserve

Stalin would be ready to put every soviet citizen in between him and Germany

@Spookaswa he literally stayed in Moscow when the Nazis were 20km from the Kremlin

The entire battle between Moscow was basically just throwing men at Germany attempting to slow them down until they thought of an actual plan lmao

Even if they somehow captured him, significant resistance would still be highly likely

Also, the CPSU =/= Stalin

There were literally people down the line ready to take full command. His most entrusted, his most cherished commanders, many public figures, party members who had gained his favour, etc. etc. Unlike Nazi Germany which was Hitler's personal project, USSR wasn't Stalin's. It wasn't tied to Stalin, it was tied to *Lenin's legacy.* USSR transcended Stalin in a way that Nazi Germany **never transcended Hitler**

Stalin would probably kill him self

@Spookaswa Stalin was he lynchpin, without him the leadership would disintegrate because he had terrorized everyone for so long

In fact much of the war showed how the Red Army fought well without Stalin's interference