Austria

Portugal

Brazil

Greece

and I left out Italy and Germany because they were fascist

@Spookaswa list every single country with a socialist and nationalist party, wp

uh

Right now?

no...

you're literally just listing countries

CHINA

Niger

Austria, Romania and Hungary all had fascist governments

and in ALL CASES

anti-Marxist ones

it always goes like this, almost without a fail

which ones!? @Xinyue

the Iron Guard, the Austrofascists and the Arrow Cross Party

like

they weren't a part of the government though!?

these were all anticommunists

the Iron Guard never became the government

and yes Fascism is anti-communist

it always existed in direct reaction to the working class' class war

because this, they contended, threatened "Muh culture"

"muh superstructure"

but... like i said earlier when you said i was a communist, it's nearly always based on the fact that Marx himself ignored pretty much everythign spiritual and like you made it obvious, there is a lack of importance of culture

uh, no, Marx and Engels didn't ignore "all things spiritual" they had a very interesting way of viewing the universe called dialectical materialism

and most people who call themselves nationalist do it from a point of caring about their people's culture and feeling a sense of kinship, Communism (since it ignores this) makes it seem like Commies are the enemy of these things

the bulk of their theory focused on *historical materialism* but this isn't the same as dialectical materialism

and even with Fascism being a young ideology with little intellectual substance

it still achieved massive success, you can't view everything as being economic

Marx had a very, very deep way of looking at human being and his place in the universe. The anti-Marxist loves to deny this and to characterise the Marxian as being void of spiritual content but this has no basis in reality

You really don't even need to look at Marx, most Communists currently do not seem at all preoccupied with culture and with their anti-nationalist rhetoric make it seem they're anti-culture (and yes, I do think most communists don't care about culture)

```A spider conducts operations that resemble those of a weaver, and a bee puts to shame many an architect in the construction of her cells. But what distinguishes the worst architect from the best of bees is this, that the architect raises his structure in imagination before he erects it in reality. At the end of every labour-process, we get a result that already existed in the imagination of the labourer at its commencement. He not only effects a change of form in the material on which he works, but he also realises a purpose of his own that gives the law to his modus operandi, and to which he must subordinate his will. And this subordination is no mere momentary act.```
- Marx, in Capital

here you can clearly see how Marx attributes to human labour a specific characteristic

its not just all about "muh materialistic hedonism" jfc 😄

I wasn't talking about materialistic hedonism and i don't think communists are hedonistic in this sense, I'm saying there's a lack of spiritualism in that it talks about religion (you said religion is just proto-ideology, you pretty much remove it's essence by calling it just an idea we make) and also, when you make such an overwhelming focus on economics it's not going to be as attractive as a political ideology whose focus is mostly on le nation, culture, ethnos and etc

you need to strike a balance, that's my point

or atleast have Communism be more "nationalistic"

Fascist economics basically takes national industry and shapes it into a gestalt body