It rises primarily to prevent socialism and communism though. Lets be honest, this is what fascism has historically done. Whether in Spain, whether in Germany, whether in Italy or China.

a breaking of the cycle of the wrong and ineffective thinking

>The Marxian view on fascism is that it is the ultimate reaction by the capitalist class to stop the withering away of their class power by the masses. When the destruction of the capitalist class becomes too eminent a possibility in the eyes of the capitalists, they will fund and back anticommunist reactionary movements to take control of the government (as in Germany) and prevent the further intensification of class war. In this sense, as Marxist have put it before:


Do you agree with this though? I don't see Fascists reacting to Communism currently, I see it more with immigration, like I won't lie, I became interested in fascism because of immigration and anti-american sentiments.

>And sure enough, wherever fascism rises, it rises in opposition to socialism and communism. Never does it rise without these other forces being present.

I don't think it's rising in opposition to socialism...

>It rises primarily to prevent socialism and communism though. Lets be honest, this is what fascism has historically done. Whether in Spain, whether in Germany, whether in Italy or China.

Kuomintang wasn't Fascist, Franco wasn't a Fascist, you only have Germany and Itlay as your examples and I think this is extremely cherrrypicked

Lots of them do this though. Lots of them blame the "secret communist" as being the one responsible for the degeneration of the Western society; that, surely enough, the Marxists in the shadows are the ones doing the damage. A

> Kuomintang wasn't Fascist

*Chiang was*

> Franco wasn't a Fascist

*Falange was, and he utilised this*

> Germany and Italy only examples

Kinda relevant ones, don't you think?

I think the current bump in fascism in the last 20 years is a direct reaction to the rise of leftwing identity politics which encompasses communism

Sun Yat Sen was a socialist, but Chiang was a fascist

the purging of the left-wing of KMT which led to 10,000 deaths kind of was a turning point

Don't forget

Romania

Hungary

yeah

>Chiang was

Since I'm uneducated on Kuomintang I won't talk about Chiang

>Falange was, and he utilised this

The Falanage were, but Franco was not, also I'd like to know why you say he utilised it, why do you not think he was a Fascist

Austria

Portugal

Brazil

Greece

and I left out Italy and Germany because they were fascist

@Spookaswa list every single country with a socialist and nationalist party, wp

uh

Right now?

no...

you're literally just listing countries

CHINA

Niger

Austria, Romania and Hungary all had fascist governments

and in ALL CASES

anti-Marxist ones

it always goes like this, almost without a fail

which ones!? @Xinyue

the Iron Guard, the Austrofascists and the Arrow Cross Party

like

they weren't a part of the government though!?

these were all anticommunists

the Iron Guard never became the government

and yes Fascism is anti-communist

it always existed in direct reaction to the working class' class war

because this, they contended, threatened "Muh culture"

"muh superstructure"

but... like i said earlier when you said i was a communist, it's nearly always based on the fact that Marx himself ignored pretty much everythign spiritual and like you made it obvious, there is a lack of importance of culture