which they hopefully don't xinue

Go to bed

what if the capitalists win and hold back the technology from the public

you will outsource human Evolution to a machine?

Why would they? @Bee What incentive would they have?

for them

easy to control people that way

we have no idea about half of why things evolved the way they did

keep them dumb

leave nature alone

First of all, to think that *no data would leak out to public organisations,* or that *public sector doesn't ever get hold of this information* (even as right no much of this is being researched by the public sector R&D) seems highly ad hoc to me

@Bee kraWhats the difference between the capitalists you are talking about and a socialist dictator ?

Second of all, once this technology *does* get out and becomes widespread (every nation has interest in having its population at the peak, in order to remain competitive in innovation and such), it will lead to the aforementioned results. Can you argue it doesn't?

its moreso internationalist capitalism and internationalist communism, which wants to get rid of the nation through "open borders", if the communist plays that hand then that plays directly into the capitalists hand, which wants cheap labor

esp 3rd world labor

which would drive down wages

"peak", before unintended consequences show up like high iq populations having extremely low birth rate to the point of permanent disability in population replenishment

mixes, no identity, consumerism yada yada

But you stifle innovation and national competitiveness if you deny this technology full application at the national level. Furthermore, if you have to result to the capitalist to be the deus ex machina saviour, that's good evidence that the race realist position is anti-socialist and pro-capitalist.

@Bee that would be what would happen in an Atheistic culture.

@Bee krabPeople with better income have higher life standards, its good for the capitalists anyways

yes which is why we shouldn't drive down wages via cheap labor

we shouldn't artificially raise wages and create poverty

We will gradually reach the level where nations will merge and it makes no sense to argue that we won't. It literally demands an ad hoc construct or series of events for this development to be overturn, which indicates its not a very realistic prediction.

>implying it isn't already happening

google and facebook lobbied the government for more h2b visas for cheap labor techies aka pajeets who don't even do a good job and drives down wages

We already have many capitalists laying the groundwork for this very industry. Most of the biotech industry is aimed specifically at providing clients with solutions that improve human capability, health, etc. There's an entire market for solutions like this. I don't think your argument stands.

Nations will always exist I think.. that's just how human nature works.
People will self segregate.
Jews have existed as a Nation in the West whilst being a minority for a millennia.

As Marx said, capitalism creates the conditions for communism. It does so, and can't help but to do it.

And yet we live in Capitalist societies post Socialism.

Eh, I'd say there's ebb and flow there. The first republic ever established didn't at once overturn the trend of monarchies. It took over 100 years.

I'm beginning to think this Marx guy was wrong about a couple of stuff

so you want to flood the borders to drive down wages and race mix and to become a minority to create discontent with the proles so they can own the capitalists when they execute them?
epic plan

Till now i dont understand what communism is

it's been a 100 years since the first Socialist country was established and we only become more Capitalist as time goes by

Again a complete misrepresentation of everything I say

It comes in so many shapes and its results are totally separated from the ideology

W t f

It's ok to be a minority and not be in complete control. Things become more Democratic and there's less of the Statist variety of Nationalism.

I say that, over a century or so, the merging-together of nations will take place - for a myriad of different, sometimes contradictory reasons. It won't be sudden process.

Like I said, not in our lifetimes. We will see considerable integration among nations, we'll see mixing and more, but we won't see the wholesale disappearance of national majorities until the conditions for this are ready. And it will be somewhere in the 2100s, I think. Much integration, lots of it bourgeois no doubt, will happen in the 2000s though.

okay epic @Gerçek