Message from @Just a weirdo

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2018-12-27 06:29:28 UTC  

mixes, no identity, consumerism yada yada

2018-12-27 06:29:52 UTC  

But you stifle innovation and national competitiveness if you deny this technology full application at the national level. Furthermore, if you have to result to the capitalist to be the deus ex machina saviour, that's good evidence that the race realist position is anti-socialist and pro-capitalist.

2018-12-27 06:29:53 UTC  

@Bee that would be what would happen in an Atheistic culture.

2018-12-27 06:30:01 UTC  

@Bee krabPeople with better income have higher life standards, its good for the capitalists anyways

2018-12-27 06:30:30 UTC  

yes which is why we shouldn't drive down wages via cheap labor

2018-12-27 06:30:54 UTC  

we shouldn't artificially raise wages and create poverty

2018-12-27 06:31:12 UTC  

We will gradually reach the level where nations will merge and it makes no sense to argue that we won't. It literally demands an ad hoc construct or series of events for this development to be overturn, which indicates its not a very realistic prediction.

2018-12-27 06:31:37 UTC  

>implying it isn't already happening

2018-12-27 06:32:22 UTC  

google and facebook lobbied the government for more h2b visas for cheap labor techies aka pajeets who don't even do a good job and drives down wages

2018-12-27 06:32:27 UTC  

We already have many capitalists laying the groundwork for this very industry. Most of the biotech industry is aimed specifically at providing clients with solutions that improve human capability, health, etc. There's an entire market for solutions like this. I don't think your argument stands.

2018-12-27 06:32:30 UTC  

Nations will always exist I think.. that's just how human nature works.
People will self segregate.
Jews have existed as a Nation in the West whilst being a minority for a millennia.

2018-12-27 06:33:04 UTC  

As Marx said, capitalism creates the conditions for communism. It does so, and can't help but to do it.

2018-12-27 06:33:29 UTC  

And yet we live in Capitalist societies post Socialism.

2018-12-27 06:33:55 UTC  

Eh, I'd say there's ebb and flow there. The first republic ever established didn't at once overturn the trend of monarchies. It took over 100 years.

2018-12-27 06:34:00 UTC  

I'm beginning to think this Marx guy was wrong about a couple of stuff

2018-12-27 06:34:29 UTC  

so you want to flood the borders to drive down wages and race mix and to become a minority to create discontent with the proles so they can own the capitalists when they execute them?
epic plan

2018-12-27 06:34:47 UTC  

Till now i dont understand what communism is

2018-12-27 06:34:49 UTC  

it's been a 100 years since the first Socialist country was established and we only become more Capitalist as time goes by

2018-12-27 06:34:49 UTC  

Again a complete misrepresentation of everything I say

2018-12-27 06:35:05 UTC  

It comes in so many shapes and its results are totally separated from the ideology

2018-12-27 06:35:07 UTC  

W t f

2018-12-27 06:36:23 UTC  

It's ok to be a minority and not be in complete control. Things become more Democratic and there's less of the Statist variety of Nationalism.

2018-12-27 06:36:38 UTC  

I say that, over a century or so, the merging-together of nations will take place - for a myriad of different, sometimes contradictory reasons. It won't be sudden process.

Like I said, not in our lifetimes. We will see considerable integration among nations, we'll see mixing and more, but we won't see the wholesale disappearance of national majorities until the conditions for this are ready. And it will be somewhere in the 2100s, I think. Much integration, lots of it bourgeois no doubt, will happen in the 2000s though.

2018-12-27 06:36:47 UTC  

okay epic @Gerçek

2018-12-27 06:36:57 UTC  

I'm glad you're convinced.

2018-12-27 06:37:21 UTC  

so you're siding with the bourgeois? EPIC @Xinyue

2018-12-27 06:37:47 UTC  

Oh my god. I'm not an idealist, I look at *material and technical conditions* and how they develop. Historical materialism, do you know what that means?

2018-12-27 06:38:24 UTC  

yes i do, but its really funny that you admit that international capitalism will play a part in instating international communism

2018-12-27 06:38:31 UTC  

This is not me *siding* with bourgeoisie, this is me saying *how bourgeois society will do X and Y*

2018-12-27 06:38:39 UTC  

It means you just ignore half the things about motivations of people.

2018-12-27 06:38:46 UTC  

that about right?

2018-12-27 06:38:48 UTC  
2018-12-27 06:38:49 UTC  

they are still the vehicle, which you ride on

2018-12-27 06:39:05 UTC  

Yes, the racist motivations of people is the reason why we all live in pure ethnostates....oh wait @Gerçek

2018-12-27 06:39:20 UTC  

>living with people like me is racist

2018-12-27 06:39:31 UTC  

truth is that people are not predispositioned towards this, which is why you guys need to struggle hard against the stream

2018-12-27 06:39:32 UTC  

So after communism it just becomes liberalism ?

2018-12-27 06:39:42 UTC  

uh yeah they are lmao

2018-12-27 06:39:51 UTC  

thats how tribes are formed

2018-12-27 06:39:56 UTC  

You guys ignore a whole lot about human nature, especially the spiritual element of it, even at times developing this great hatred of it.

2018-12-27 06:40:05 UTC  

thats how all biological collectives are formed