Message from @Gerçek

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2018-12-27 07:32:21 UTC  

and people will be detatched from the end product, they don't care if the mutation came from a human engineer or an AI, if it's good it's good

2018-12-27 07:32:34 UTC  

dumb humans maybe

2018-12-27 07:32:39 UTC  

by that time again, it will be socially normal to do this.

2018-12-27 07:32:41 UTC  

the objective then would be to heighten our species

2018-12-27 07:33:13 UTC  

when you realize most people vote for instant gratification instead of long term sustainability 😩

2018-12-27 07:33:24 UTC  

Again, it doesn't have to be like that at all

2018-12-27 07:33:27 UTC  

again,

2018-12-27 07:33:36 UTC  

this is literally a problem **only** if you *insist we stay as we are*

2018-12-27 07:34:06 UTC  

the transhumanist movement needs to be defeated yes

2018-12-27 07:34:07 UTC  

I agree

2018-12-27 07:34:08 UTC  

this

2018-12-27 07:34:19 UTC  

"let AI live in the minds of every single one of us" type of charlatan

2018-12-27 07:34:23 UTC  

this needs to be defeated

2018-12-27 07:34:28 UTC  

but that has no connection to what I propose

2018-12-27 07:34:35 UTC  

you can do that with literally every problem posed by anything in the world, *it's only a problem if you insist we stay as we are*

2018-12-27 07:34:49 UTC  

even this tech you're talking about has some constraints mate

2018-12-27 07:34:58 UTC  

your a Utopian individual 😄

2018-12-27 07:35:04 UTC  

I mean what is your solution then? Do not improve the intelligence levels of humans as they venture into this landmark century with all the perils *you clearly are aware exist?*

2018-12-27 07:35:15 UTC  

Seems like the losing proposition

2018-12-27 07:35:39 UTC  

oh no, I'm completely against this IQ Communism 😄

2018-12-27 07:35:47 UTC  

i realise everyone plays their part

2018-12-27 07:35:59 UTC  

you need the average IQ people in a society

2018-12-27 07:36:08 UTC  

You won't stop this at all, no chance in hell, you can only hope to *guide the technological trajectory and the trajectory of applications*

2018-12-27 07:36:26 UTC  

you literally won't be able to combat the transhumanists with some lame status quo policy

2018-12-27 07:36:28 UTC  

that will not happen

2018-12-27 07:36:34 UTC  

there's too much hype

2018-12-27 07:36:49 UTC  

now you're resorting to an argument from inevitablility instead of stating how this is actually a positive thing.

2018-12-27 07:37:06 UTC  

at least my viewpoint allows that we stay humans, we remain largely as we are, we will become better in many aspects but humans after 100 years will live largely as they have hitherto

2018-12-27 07:37:08 UTC  

and about that, i might actually agree with you.. it might well be an inevitablility

2018-12-27 07:37:45 UTC  

yeah but I'm not going to be defeatist about this, fuck that, I spent too much time on that already

2018-12-27 07:37:49 UTC  

you can always choose to see the positives and ignore the negatives to create a rosy picture and have peace of mind

2018-12-27 07:38:07 UTC  

You have literally no alternative to offer, beyond defeatism

2018-12-27 07:38:12 UTC  

I say that defeats your argument on its own

2018-12-27 07:38:56 UTC  

I can point to a problem whilst not having a solution, yet..
pointing to the problem is still useful mate.

2018-12-27 07:39:29 UTC  

I am not sure that there exists a problem, if you mean by "problem" some kind of inevitable spiralling into AI dictatorship because we use nootropics and gene-editing....

2018-12-27 07:39:41 UTC  

not sure why this needs to be

2018-12-27 07:39:56 UTC  

It's not an AI Dictatorship, anyway..

2018-12-27 07:40:02 UTC  

Well you know what I mean

2018-12-27 07:40:10 UTC  

unpleasant future revolving around AI guided evolution

2018-12-27 07:40:15 UTC  

i think you have enough to think about from this, nobody changes their mind on the first go lol

2018-12-27 07:40:16 UTC  

where dumb humans have no problem with it