Being replaced is not evolution

You can literally build a generation starship like mobile O Neill Cylinder type and then have generations live and die there as they are en route to Alpha Centauri, Barnard's Star, etc. Humans can get there just fine as humans.

@Bearer Of The Curse if you think of it like that we are replaced constantly.

sons and daughters replace mothers and fathers.

Absolutely not, our DNA lives on

your cells are completely replaced every ten years or so.

you are theseus’ ship.

The genetic information remains though, its not the same in this sense, no.

and you dont even know it.

@Xinyue genetic information changes constantly.

your skin’s dna is diffirent from your livers.

stem cells turn genes on and off like light switches.

By that I meant the *genes as a changing thing, the object of change, remain as a thing that undergoes change within a set of parameters and conditions.* This ends.

Alright, this is completely unepic and unworthy of continuing

life is constant change. nothing stays the same. ever.

Like you can have this "hurr durr only existing thing is change hurr durr" le big think routine, whatever, its nothing new - Buddhists conceived of it 2,500 years ago. Its not avant garde, its not special in any way. It doesn't actually say anything on its own.

you seem so afraid of the concept of something surpassing humans today.

Its not about surpassing, its about the dystopian possibilities that come with it. Including for the AIs themselves, should they be created. Abominable states of being that are literal forms of hell. Something that should dissuade anyone foolish enough to pursue this technology without any reservations.

dystopia is as unreachable as utopia.

I don't think you've thought through the implications. Common trait among the transhumanists.

my point is we cant do anything else!

how can you STOP people from making progress?

you haven't even substantiated how we *must* get there. Maybe you read too much Nick Bostrom or something idk

we cant slow down the march of time. all we can do is stand ready to face it.

its not about slowing it down.

its about being prepared.

we arent anywhere close to a general intelligence, let alone a singularity, let alone a self-replicating singularity.

we have time.

have you even quantified and accounted for the *conditions that shape that onwards march?* I mean we literally don't know. We have lots of different theories and some of them posit totally different outcomes, some people say machines will assimilate humans, others say humans will assimilate machines instead. All top figure in their fields - mathematics, physics, computer sciences, neuroscience, etc.

thats because you are thinking to far ahead, and getting overwhelmed by it.

Like I'm not at all sure that the HYPE!!11!1! crowd and the OHMYGOD crowd of doom and gloom have any idea where this is *actually* going to go and that's because we don't actually as a species *know.* Lots of people are profiting from both camps though.

machines wont assimilate humanity, nor will they replace them.


humanity did not replace nature when we became the smartest monkeus on the playground.

There's also strong argument against the superintelligence in that we should see it already in space if it were to happen. We'd see traces of it. Fermi's Paradox indicates that something is badly off base here, its one of the reasons I really don't think its gonna go as Bostrom & Kurzweil Gang think its gonna go down

>fermis paradox

uuuugghhh this shit again

fermis paradox doesnt exist.

it does exist actually, it really does. Not for organic life, no it doesn't. You know, the regular life at our level and below. For the superintelligent kind of "life"? That could seed out entire galaxies and turn stars into dyson spheres etc and harness entire galaxies for its own power? Yeah, for that kind of life the paradox is fucking huge problem

Mate

1. dysonspheres are a retarded concept.

if anything we would have dyson swarms

which would probably not come anywhere near to BLOTTING OUT STARS