there was even Poverty before Chávez because

Like we can talk and exchange anecdotes all day but it will still be inferior to data and actual analysis of the economic and political factors at play

After the Overtrown of Marcos Pérez Jiménez wich was a Military Dictator with Conservative and Nationalistic Policies

the country was ruled for 40 years by Social-Democrats and Social-Christians

those Statistics doesn't match with the Reality

Join the afc y’all

there's a lot of Crime rates in Venezuela

Also Maduro was arguably the worst person to follow up on Chavez. He's completely incapable of doing anything and probably should be replaced *either* by a more competent figure within PSUV or, perhaps more preferably, by a leading figure of PCV

now the Life Expectancy is lowering

if Chávez was Still in Power, the same thing would happen

What do you mean "a lot of crime rates"

it's Socialism it doesn't work

163 people in a single day dies in the capital city of Caracas

Well in the sense that, yes, global capitalism ruined your country and it ruins it no matter who's the leader

however, actual, real differences in policy can impact this

@Honey Beanger I would assume English isn’t his first language so you probably can just piece together what he means.

what is your argument of Global Capitalism destroying other countries?

you repeated that like 4 times

you sound like Maduro with his national broadcasts

he always blames the USA for everything with his ridicolous "ECONOMIC WAR"

@Flat and yes English is not my first language but at least i talk it

@Flat yeah

Global capitalism - that is not only the Saudi-US oil war on Russia and Iran which artificially manipulated the global oil prices and ruined the Venezuelan oil-heavy economy, but also the sanctions imposed upon it by US, Canada and EU (among others) that disable normal international economic activity from being carried out - are almost single handedly responsible for the state of Venezuela today, and have been in place since early 2010s which was when the crisis began.

The Venezuelan Economical Crisis started when the Oil prices dropped

Chávez centered the economy depending it on the OIL

Literally the only product we were exporting was oil, and the rest was being Imported

If I had to fault Venezuelan socialists for something in this, it would be two things

1) not diversifying the economy quickly enough (would have required planning)
2) not seizing the means of production and liquidating the capitalist power structure fast enough (to facilitate 1)

they didn't diversify the means of production

and 2

yes they did seize some meanings of production

as i said they expropiated plenty of properties

farms, companies, airlines, etc

They didn't control the means of production to begin with. And this was the *number one problem* with their gradualist, reformist praxis. They should've transformed the economy much quicker. They should've gone for full autonomy approach, or autarkic economic policy for the duration of the coming crisis.

they did

they did it

They didn't

no

they really didn't

Most of the Properties are State owned

most of the economy remained in the hands of the capitalists

the Private Sector is Small