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What the fuck does aki mean
Is that like discord’s version of desu
Fucked if I know
@CronoSaturn "Generally representation would be considered in the same light by advocates of democracy as populations who fail to receive representation are historically deprived of oxygen and property"
"advocates of democracy"
ohh that is not the problem then!
If your not an advocate of democracy historically you have a history of being deprived of oxygen and property but you do you.
It would also entail you stripping the vote from just about everyone so there’s that
@Zabriskie then get eatin boi
Aki is based and red pilled
I dont advocate censoring people without 12 kids
I just don't believe everyone has a right to influence state policy
Especially if you value things like free speech, then you should be anti-democratic when the majority wants censorship
What you also ignore however is that the vote carries along pretty significant benefits outside of the democratic process. Increased productivity, higher citizen engagement, a higher recruiting pool for the military, these are all ways in which democracies have historically outcompeted and dominated alternative forms of governance
Also free speech means that you can talk shit, snake. Not that I have to do anything with your shittalk
That’s what the vote is for
I do not advocate for autocracy.
and yes I am pro free speech
You should advocate for X to be universal because if you won't then Y will be taken away from you relies on assumption that others will use this criterium to judge you.... and that is not historicall acurate nor practical in politics. :p
I am also not a socialist which gets me lots of hate from this server
what's odd is it feels like there's a ton of civic nats and commies here, but not as many white nats
"Bruchawa" <:thonk:520003926381166597>
lol
" Increased productivity, higher citizen engagement, a higher recruiting pool for the military" I would argue that it is more of a wishfull thinking rather then fact! :p
Everyone knows that my my nicknames ideas are epic btw!
Everyoneeeeee
I can source studies if you like but I don’t have them available immediately. A prominent historical example though is napoleons levee en masse
So why do you think that limiting the voting right to the people that have kids wouldn't bring about more positive impact?
Because it pushes others from contributing their thoughts, it delegitimises the govt to those who can no longer contribute and leads to a disconnect in the political class from facts on the ground
It may also have a perverse incentive in that it would incentivise those who can currently vote and so have kids to make it more difficult for others to do so and so ensure they retain an inflated share of the franchise and political power
I would suggest this is not what you had in mind
One of the problems of modern democracies is a debt spiral and becomes even more serious with falling birthrates. It is a sad fact that the debts of those who live will be paid off by those who will be born in the future... but why would those who live care? Well I make an argument that those who have children are on average more incentivised to care and at the same time it would incentivise people to have more kids.
Also I don't think that the vision that you proposed would happen because the power would still be distrbuted to the point that would make a power grab in the way you described preety much pointless.
Also one of the sad truth of democracies such as they are is that they are followed by a large political apathy.... large groups of society are already disconnected from it and don't care.
So maybe a right that you have to earn will be more valued.
and to be honest... some it is better when some people just don't contribute...
just no
Why do you have the exact same profile photo
Like what the fuck
That is how I look. I am a bot you see.
Right