they get more stimulation in their street gangs

so instead of a 70's IQ, they've got an 80's IQ

Does this guy believe in evolution?

He doesn't believe in Race

and wants to go back that people can have their own ideas

and the difference between ideas and actions... as if it makes any difference when we're talking about group behavioral differences, but whatever

If so how can he possibly believe that all races have the same IQ potential or even the same innate behaviours at the same IQ level if they evolved in isolation?

Well, this started because I brought up IQ

because he was denying that any group or person could have a propensity for a certain belief or behavior

specifically in reference to politics

IQ is so important to dispelling the myths of race egalitarianism.

My point of bringing up IQ, was that if you believe in IQ, then you should have no problem understanding how people can have innate behavioral predispositions...

I believe in race, thanks again for putting words in my mouth, I don't believe it makes it impossible to change someone's mind, and yes I believe in evolution

predispositions that might make them say, be more tribal and less trusting of outsiders, or say be more likely to want order and conformity....

You say you believe in race, but every specific thing you say about it you say is, "muh enviornment"

@randomNPCno3 operating politically like changing the behaviour of an entire race is possible or desirable is insane.

not that it really makes a difference for what we see in the world

as I asked, even if it is enviornmental you going to go in and force them all to change?

I'm supposed to accept their bedhavior or be tolerant of them because Thomas Sowell exists?

Either way you end up in the same place unless you think it's our duty to pull these people out of their own troubles...Which I suspect you do not...

@randomNPCno3 blacks did better under Jim Crow because whites used authoritarianism to FORCe black to live according to a white social norm. Now that they aren't under that system they have done literally the opposite of what you are suggesting. You can't persuade them to change you can only force them to.

>NOT ALL

^ exactly. Its such a weak position to take, and very delusional.

He conflates specific ideological positions or cultures with the idea that theres predisposition towards belief systems and behaviors

So you'd rather discount any data that disagrees with you?

In regards to what?

@randomNPCno3 The data agrees with me bro.

if you're talking about IQ you're dead wrong

if you're tlaking about voting

@randomNPCno3 nice projection

basically anyone who identifies as non-White votes democrat

I'm talking about your disdain for the not all point

When you're talking about a general trend the exception doesn't prove the rule?

What's your not all data?

@randomNPCno3 people are not individuals so the "not all" point ins total nonsense. The exception does not disprove thee rule.

AMerican blacks don't have an IQ in the 80's?

What are you saying is, "not all"?

Your talking general trend, I'm speaking individuals

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@randomNPCno3 there are no indivuals

The individuals that don't even comprise probably 5% of the whole group