Message from @Tony_Swann

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2020-02-28 02:27:20 UTC  

You say you believe in race, but every specific thing you say about it you say is, "muh enviornment"

2020-02-28 02:27:35 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 operating politically like changing the behaviour of an entire race is possible or desirable is insane.

2020-02-28 02:27:36 UTC  

not that it really makes a difference for what we see in the world

2020-02-28 02:27:50 UTC  

as I asked, even if it is enviornmental you going to go in and force them all to change?

2020-02-28 02:28:07 UTC  

I'm supposed to accept their bedhavior or be tolerant of them because Thomas Sowell exists?

2020-02-28 02:28:38 UTC  

Either way you end up in the same place unless you think it's our duty to pull these people out of their own troubles...Which I suspect you do not...

2020-02-28 02:29:05 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 blacks did better under Jim Crow because whites used authoritarianism to FORCe black to live according to a white social norm. Now that they aren't under that system they have done literally the opposite of what you are suggesting. You can't persuade them to change you can only force them to.

2020-02-28 02:29:39 UTC  

>NOT ALL

2020-02-28 02:30:05 UTC  

^ exactly. Its such a weak position to take, and very delusional.

2020-02-28 02:30:23 UTC  

He conflates specific ideological positions or cultures with the idea that theres predisposition towards belief systems and behaviors

2020-02-28 02:30:34 UTC  

So you'd rather discount any data that disagrees with you?

2020-02-28 02:30:49 UTC  

In regards to what?

2020-02-28 02:30:51 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 The data agrees with me bro.

2020-02-28 02:30:54 UTC  

if you're talking about IQ you're dead wrong

2020-02-28 02:30:59 UTC  

if you're tlaking about voting

2020-02-28 02:31:09 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 nice projection

2020-02-28 02:31:10 UTC  

basically anyone who identifies as non-White votes democrat

2020-02-28 02:31:15 UTC  

I'm talking about your disdain for the not all point

2020-02-28 02:31:42 UTC  

When you're talking about a general trend the exception doesn't prove the rule?

2020-02-28 02:31:48 UTC  

What's your not all data?

2020-02-28 02:31:57 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 people are not individuals so the "not all" point ins total nonsense. The exception does not disprove thee rule.

2020-02-28 02:32:02 UTC  

AMerican blacks don't have an IQ in the 80's?

2020-02-28 02:32:08 UTC  

What are you saying is, "not all"?

2020-02-28 02:32:10 UTC  

Your talking general trend, I'm speaking individuals

2020-02-28 02:32:18 UTC  

🙄

2020-02-28 02:32:24 UTC  

@randomNPCno3 there are no indivuals

2020-02-28 02:32:32 UTC  

The individuals that don't even comprise probably 5% of the whole group

2020-02-28 02:32:39 UTC  

Stop this libertarian nonsense

2020-02-28 02:32:52 UTC  

And that's why group think is shit

2020-02-28 02:33:02 UTC  

🤣

2020-02-28 02:33:02 UTC  

^ explain

2020-02-28 02:33:25 UTC  

Incredulity is not an argument.

2020-02-28 02:33:32 UTC  

Explain how you're not an individual

2020-02-28 02:34:00 UTC  

Do you have no sense of self?

2020-02-28 02:34:14 UTC  

Do mirrors confuse you?

2020-02-28 02:34:27 UTC  

I'm still waiting for what the not all data is

2020-02-28 02:34:31 UTC  

I don't get that comment

2020-02-28 02:34:34 UTC  

this is a tangent again

2020-02-28 02:35:05 UTC  

The fact that collective groups are made of individuals doesn't change any of the facts we've been discussing about IQ, behavior, or anything else...

2020-02-28 02:35:33 UTC  

People are defined by many things. Primarily their genetics since that informes literally every other trait. But also their history and their ancestors history, their political tribe and economic tribe ect. You cannot simply ignore these because you want t be an "individual". These things are Unchanging and have a profound effect on every aspect of human life.

2020-02-28 02:36:05 UTC  

Are you saying Black people are no better than monkies since some apes can pass the mirror test? Pretty spicy take dude...